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"The killing procedure is horrific." Taken from another thread said by Ravenousbird.

My question is; How many of you have actually been inside a kill house for the stuff you buy in the supermarket? To feed the millions.

I've been in three. One for beef, one for chicken and one for turkey.
It's not the visual that stays with you, it's the smell.

The thought is. Will you starve rather than have these mammals die for you.
Make no mistake, there is not enough arable land on earth to feed our population as vegetarians.

Ravenousbirds concern. As I see it is the brutality of the herding and slaughter.
Humanity is brutal in it's survival. Anyone that can not see that we are destroying the very earth we stand upon for that survival is either stupid or dead.

Noo that is a proper rant. With a huge dollop of truth.

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No I do not eat meat or anything that has a mother or a face... I started off as a Vegetarian now Vegan it has been about 20 years now...I have never been in a Slaughter House and I do not need to go to one to feel the pain and hear the cries of the suffering animals....I always say Go Vegan

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And just how many Vegan people do you think the mammal population will support before you become the prey?

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@Egor17 I don't know and if I become prey for an animals so be it...that is life...and let me tell you I have my fair share of close calls with mammals and I still will starve to death before I eat one....They can feast on my dead body before I will ever hurt one...

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@HellHounds45 And that is your right. I just love the diversity of peoples ideals.

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I do eat meat but do not care for it much. I prefer veggies and crave them more. I could live without eating meat as it wouldn't make much of a difference but I will not go out of my way to avoid eating it. It's a lifestyle choice and much respect to both those who do not consume meat and those who do. To each their own ;)

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I'm just about to pan fry a sirloin steak with rosemary and butter, delicious. Thank you God for inventing the cow.

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@terrabyte oh yummy, now I want some curry goat!

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Well I'm lucky in the way that I live in the Welsh countryside . The meat I buy comes from only the surrounding arrear. I know the animals have been looked after, have been happy as pigs in sh*t, which they are , killed humanely . The meat also is of better quality and tastes better.soon I shall have animals myself

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@Joe1975 Now I'm jealous!

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As a family we don't eat much meat at all. Some spent time as full vegetarians, but returned to eating some meat. We usually only have it a few days a week, and most prefer to eat the veggy option when dining out.

I buy most meat and eggs from local farm shops, our local pig farm is like a living nightmare. I love pigs, but OMG, they smell worse than death.

I know where our meat comes from but it's store bought eggs I really struggle with. I refuse to buy any from hens kept in anything but REAL free-range conditions, and will lecture anyone about buying cheap or industrial farmed eggs. Just because it says free-range on the box, doesn't mean they have access to forage.

Did you know there are 'free-range, organic vegetarian fed eggs'? The hens are kept in a warehouse, in almost sterile conditions, with a restricted vegetarian diet. This way they won't get a chance to forage. Appalling!
Why would people claiming to love animals, want to subject chickens to that sh*t?

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@DemandingFemale Totally agree on the eggs. You really can taste and see the difference.

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I get my meat from butchers rather than supermarket, at least that way I know I'm getting a kilo of chicken instead of 1/2k chicken and 1/2k of water and polyfilla.

I used to have to walk to work passing by the Halls factory so I know what you mean by the smell. As for seeing how it's made... it's the same for most types of food I imagine; once you see how it's made you'll probably not want it again. I've worked in a biscuit factory and still can't eat biscuits nearly 20 years later.

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@Mykee83 So true. But my aversions only lasted a month or two. Still don't buy meat from the supermarkets though.

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I don't eat hot dogs, that much I can say. Back in the late 50's, early 60's my dad worked at Oscar Meyer. He came home one night with a band-aid on his finger and when I asked what happened he said a hot dog bit him. 50+ years later I still can't eat em.

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@dramucom Oh my god. LOLOLOL

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@dramucom My Grandfather lost a finger in an IRA bombing and told all us kids he lost it picking his nose.

We were NEVER caught with our fingers up there!

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@DemandingFemale the important word there was "caught" not "never" smiley

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@Mykee83 #TrueStory

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@DemandingFemale Grandpas always have the best stories

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@dramucom He once told me that if I played with my bellybutton too much, I would unscrew it and my bum would fall off LOL

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Hey if you eat meat that is your choice, my choice is to be Vegan and I am proud of it and when I die, I will die with a clear conscious knowing that no living being was murdered for me...and please that plants are alive bull sh*t, I have head it all.......
"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined. If beef is your idea of real food for real people, you'd better live real close to a real good hospital."
-- Neal D. Barnard, M.D., President, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, Washington, D.C."

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I only eat other people,and the palms of the hand are especially tastey.but i went to a "licensed dietician"cause I was PARTLY VEGETARIAN,and the dietien said (fuccccccing spelling crapo i can't type any more sh*t)the doctor also said"if you become a complete vegan,you have to come to me,and get special supplements of AMINO ACIDS THAT MEAT PROVIDES.--BUT THEY ARE NOT FROM MEAT.just take these supplements as a vegan,you won't get bad malnutrition. (you will lose your spelling.)I knew "complete vegans who did this they never got malnutrition.---and i heard of vegans who GOT BAD MALNUTICION who never got them from the doctor,much worse off.

its just the chemistry of your body,is all,Our body chemistry still needs those amino acids that in primitive times,we got from meat,its SCIENCE. I AM NOT ARGUING FURTHER, GOOD BYE,

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@clarachan1355 It's also not a lifestyle a lot of people can afford. It's quite expensive to be a vegan to be honest and as you stated - all the supplementing that's needed... Not everyone has the luxury to be so picky as to what they can or cannot eat... heck.. poverty is a real thing especially in Americas. ;)

Like I said above, to each their own.

Respect to everyone's choices.

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@3UN01A I agree with it being a persons choice, but why so expensive? I do not get supplements from DR's a lot of us don't...Chick Peas are cheaper then meat, fruit is cheaper them meat, everything that I eat is cheaper then meat...No cheese, no dairy, no steak, fish...you remove all that out and you will find being a Vegan is cheaper....My opinion only... As far as poverty I am living on disability and I am still a vegan...I also have 2 dogs and 2 cats and my Vegan food is cheaper then theirs

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@HellHounds45 It's not just about what you eat, this is a lifestyle choice that eliminates ALL animal products from your life which includes not only food but cleaning products, clothes, beauty products and so on. It also depends where you live. Here veggies, nuts, fruits, beans are all very expensive and adds up more than a "regular diet" or even vegetarian. That's just from my own personal life experience with a vegan lifestyle that I gave up and my opinions based on where I live which is a major city in North America.

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@3UN01A I know it includes cleaning products, clothes , beauty products...If you by canned fruit, soups, beans they are much cheaper then meat..You can get 5 cans of corn, beans etc for $1.00, you can not get 5 steaks for $1.00...and this is not at a discount store I also live in a Major city in North America...As this is my opinion from my living as a Vegan for 20 years....

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@HellHounds45 For sure everyone's experience is going to be different. Thank you for sharing yours ;)

many blessings xx

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@clarachan1355 Pairing vegetable proteins is easy. But one should inspect the amino acid profile thoroughly of the things they pair. For example rice and beans make a good protein and is a classic, cheap and easy combo. Quinoa contains the full profile, meaning as complete as meat. Soy does too. This is strictly vegan.

If one is a vegetarian who eats dairy and eggs it's even easier.

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I have a recently stopped eating meat for I dunno, spiritual reasons? Don't want to eat something that has the same vibration frequency as I have.

The projections of the areal needed to feed all of us as vegetarians are reasonable. But that is with current IMO suboptimal farming methods and staple foods. If we would include aquaponics which enables things like duckweed and watercress. Grow varieties of potatoes like Sarpo mira in containers. And Chlorella, an algae that really has unmatched nutritional value and production of complete protein per square meter. Also Spirulina and more super-foods. My view is if we did these things we could do it easily.

I've only done it small scale but the numbers add up (two growbeds stacked on two more with watercress, then two more with duckweed at the bottom), Chlorella separately. Now scaling up with the goal of at least 80% self-sufficiency within two years on less than 40 sq. meters (430 sq. feet). Potatoes are done in containers in summer on less than 30 sq. meters (321 sq. feet), plus a few more root vegetables and staple foods for feeding the wormbin (for fish food and fertilizer). The rest in aquaponics year-round solar greenhouse. I won't be eating the fish this time. Let's see how it pans out! Will be nice with some real data on local production for the individual or family.
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I love meat! But you sir are wrong, it takes a lot more land for raising animals for slaughter than it does to plant food and it destroys and consumes so much more for meat harvesting. www.economist.com/feast-and-fami...

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@otaythen Was wondering how long it would be for someone to notice that.

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I am an occasional meat eater. I was vegan for years but struggled due to having coeliacs - my diet was too restricted, eating out was impossible.

meat eating uses more arable land than veganism would due to land used to produce food for cattle etc. www.theguardian.com/environment/...

veganism and vegetarianism is also much cheaper than eating meat if you avoid the expensive substitute products (fake cheese is gross anyway) and buy vegetables which are always cheaper than meat and cheese.

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@ronanD Ye ronanD, Fake any food is gross. Once tried a soy burger pretending to be meat. GROSS is a good word for that.

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@ronanD Vegies are cheaper as they go 'off' quicker. Meat and cheese can be stored. Actually that was why cheese was made in the first place. Milk goes 'off' Cheese holds the calcium our bodies require. As do many dairy products.

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"meat eating uses more arable land than veganism"

Not even close to the arable land used for housing and factories. Humans can build anywhere. so why build on food land?

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I'm a meat eater myself and enjoy every ounce, I can get down my gullet. As for what consumes more land for either carnivores or vegetarians. Well, I say both. To simply put it, "MAN"! The human race is way over populated for such a delicate flower, we call "Earth". What we need is a global lottery. Man needs to learn to sacrifice themselves, for the greater good of our planet. Here we are talking about populating, Mars. Why not just have a lottery on who is to be sacrificed. We have done enough harm to this land, whether it be extinction of a species or polluting our water. I could keep going but I think I spoke my piece. Cheers! smiley

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Ye. You go first as the top lotto winner.

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I could be a vegetarian if bacon wasn't so delicious. Also a huge fan of German sausage ever since I met my boyfriend Gunther. smiley Soooo...Gooooo Meat!

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