Anysubj opinions (3531 views, 357 replies)
senior master
I like it, I love it, I want some more of it.
A wonderful compliment to dosmovies. I'd be a member of each at twice the price.
Well done Dr. Evil. Thanks for all the hard work and sacrifice.
senior guru
There will always be problems when we talk about politics, money, or religion.
I think there's even a golden rule regarding it.
guru
I avoid anysubj as the users skewed so far right, it is impossible to say anything without being covered by an avalanche of stupidity. That seems to be why the modding is so necessary.
senior master
Anysubj is full of political extremists, pseudo-medical cr*p, haters and a-holes.
I pop in sometime for a laugh and wind them up.
But that's good... keep them there to rant among themselves, away from normal folk in here who come to relax and share entertainment.
I would like politics and conspiracies banned from here.
Thanks, Doc 
master
Lets suppose, for the sake of the argument, that we accept that the Politics and the Political Memes communities are the source of all evil and all conflict in the site. If we were to remove them, do you see any value for the rest of the communities? Would you participate in the forums if we kept it strictly fun, hobbies and games?
@Bread&Circuses Start using words? 
(This laughter emoji is not meant to be perceived as an expression of belittlement)
skilled
I have two things to say, and they are both about anysubj, but I guess it goes for docmovies as well. First, I would like we have no moderation at all. I mean, what fool would post porn or something like that? I would like we are able to say whatever we want to, whoever we want to and about anyone we want to.
The second thing is blocking users. I think that one should block someone only on a personal level, which includes his PM and his Wall. When you go into chat, you are entering a public realm, baby. Everybody can see, like and comment your comments and posts. Grow up, men! These are only words!
senior master
What is the point of suspending [SPOILER] unpleasant a-holes on Anysubj if they can still come to 2M and fill the forums with garbage?
I suggest tightening the standards here but allowing free-rein on Anycrap so a few offensive idiots can rant to each other harmlessly.
@Buttless "Anycrap"?
You do realize that this constitutes your reply to the Admin, right?
Now, you know that the Admin is nice and tolerant but you also know I am neither of these two.
So what exactly goes through your mind to post a comment that constitutes an attack against the Administration, especially when a 7 Day Suspension was just issued 15 minutes prior to your comment and which is the reason for your comment?
@JudgeDredd Sorry-pardon Judge, I would never attack the Administration.
Rather, I am supporting the removal of troublesome a-holes from 2M to their own playpen.
@Buttless Their own playpen will be anywhere BUT Anysubj. The days of the Wild West are over. You've been there, you have seen what I am talking about.
top expert
Pretty much what Buttless said, let em do what they want on anysub, this isnt the place for the vast majority of it.
@Stickmanuk You dont understand. We do not want them and we have kicked them out. We are abuse free and we have no tolerance for such conduct.
guru
Ban bate? Yep seems like that's exactly what's goin on here Doc.
As soon as people start speaking their minds, out come the threats. How in the world can anyone be expected to offer honest opinions with the sword of Damocles perched precariously over their ever utterance?
Since the whole "full moderation is now in effect" campaign began I've seen bans for almost nothing and numerous examples of the same type behavior by other members without so much as a peep in terms of moderation.
The slant in terms of which type of user gets the condescension or punted outta the site is so stark it's amazing.
We conservatives are always the ones receiving the brunt of the moderation. This is absolutely astounding when some of the most rabid of all comments I've read there were from the other side of the aisle and never a friggin peep about that snot slingin crew.
I remember quite well in early discussions about anysub were tendered as a way to delineate the political discussions away from the 2 Movies forums since the dissension factor was deemed detrimental to the site. Anysub was supposed to remove that faction and give it a home where it would not effect the tenor of the 2 Movies forums.
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@mrkim56 You were lucky, my friend, you remember the times of Wild West. I came after it was over. Now, I see that the entire political topic is closed to October 20th. I will not spend my time there until that day. I, who almost never posted political content. Moreover, I read this thread, and I realize I am not welcome there (We do not want them and we have kicked them out). So, I guess, they will have one less they have to worry about.
@Omenomen 
A great performance worthy of an Oscar.
This is the second time in this very thread that you attempt to claim victim-hood status on matters that you havent been associated with. Why is that?
Why do you identify with the group that has been kicked out when you havent been kicked out? Why do you identify with the repeat offenders when you havent received an infraction in 3 months?
Just wondering...
@JudgeDredd There are two answers to that, my friend, of which, I assume, you would understand at least one.
First, I was suspended for acting as I normally would. That is (was) my true nature. Being adaptive is my feature; that does not mean I like what I am adapted on.
The second thing. I identify myself with my friends. In those three months, you have banned two of them, one has left on his own. And now, I have only a few who left on the site; they are the reason I stayed there. But every time you cut off somebody I was really close to, you cut off me.
That is why I feel being persecuted.
@Omenomen Oh, I understand both. Because you take full responsibility for your actions and your own nature. And this is why you have my respect.
In stark contrast to your friends, you are not trying to persuade me that statements like:
"the hype snoflake changing language to cover his snow white ass pu**y is scared now after years of spewing hate from those pretty lips his guts will be a good trophy to stomp in while crushing his skull in the hands of the righteous."
are entirely innocent and uttered in good fun. And I am sorry to say but your friends that got banned had it coming for many months. They made the mistake of misinterpreting patience for weakness. You were smart and adapted. They didnt.
@Omenomen I stopped going there too. That side has become jaded and to Robusto for me.Can't say anything without them attacking. I won't honor them with my scalp any longer. I have other sites for news. At first it was nice to be able to just do it all here but times have changed.
@mrkim56 Since we are honest here, I am astounded by the logic of your argument. You are suggesting that an opinion that is accompanied or comprised by derogatory, abusive, insulting and harassing remarks is nothing more than an honest opinion and as such should not be penalized or limited in any way. In fact it should be applauded.
To that I wonder......are you exercising that kind of speech out in public? Because if you would, retribution in the form of a physical confrontation is a dead certainty. And when the victim of your opinion pummels you to the ground, or worse, files a criminal complaint against you for abuse and defamation, am I to believe you will argue that point in court?
Out of curiosity...what will your reaction be, when you happen to be on the receiving end of such an honest opinion? Are you gonna sit and take it without complaining? Are you gonna respect the right of your opponent to call you a nutjob d**k`tater, a swamp-donkey, or plainly a d**k? Even when it is completely unprovoked? Perhaps to you, such language has lost its derogatory meaning, but I assure you the same doesnt apply to me.
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guru
Yep, I'm just as frank in reality as I am anywhere else.
You claim that in doing so I should expect physical violence as a byproduct of such actions. Hmm, that's quite interesting. So voicing my contrary opinion (by your summation) then should allow violence as a repercussion? Really?
I on the other hand view things differently. I am quite willing to allow anyone to vocalize their thoughts and even welcome that scenario as it means real communication between 2 thinking adults is then taking place.
However, I do not anticipate nor expect violence as a byproduct of that communication while it seems by your statements that it must be some allowable result. What a shame that a person of your intellectual capacity should also choose to embrace such a low brow reaction to a difference of opinions.
No I don't go running and tattling at every remark I find offensive. Have you ever seen me field such a complaint other than in my post above? Don't bother, it's a rhetorical question we both know the answer to.
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@mrkim56 Ts ts ts...cherry picking my statements? In what universe does that work?
I said: "You are suggesting that an opinion that is accompanied or comprised by derogatory, abusive, insulting and harassing remarks is nothing more than an honest opinion" and "are you exercising that kind of speech out in public? Because if you would, retribution in the form of a physical confrontation is a dead certainty."
I find it interesting how you bypassed that in order to attribute a different meaning to my statement. And yes really. I do believe that if you walk to a total stranger and called him a nutjob d**k`tater, a swamp-donkey, or plainly a d**k, would result, at minimum, with the loss of your teeth. If you doubt this, you can always put it to the test.
In regards to your suspension, you were flagged for publicly discussing admin actions, stalking, bullying and harassment. You received 4 Days simply because stalking, bullying and harassment belong in the 1 to 4 Day bracket. You received the minimum of 1 day for each of the four violations. And btw, that was your second suspension. Your first was a 1 Day suspension for telling me to "wear it proudly and make sure it has plenty of frilly lace". So spare me the lecture on civility.
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top expert
This thread is a good example on how to improve anysubj.
The layout or format aren't an issue so, let's just call the elephant in the room an elephant. The seemingly never ending wave of zealot d-bags.
Don't know why anyj is a magnet to such but, I will say, I definitely see a pattern. Wack-a-mole, don't see Clark Kent and Superman in the same room at the same time type pattern.
Even straight up conspiracy sites such as godlikeproductions don't have the problems to the same scale so, if I had to guess, there's a person or group that got their Cheerios peed in at some point, who made a conscious decision to make anysubj a landing pad.
Obviously you want traffic there from all types, triggered memes and tin foil hats included but, I believe you have to make a call on if you want a truly open forum or, civil discussion. Don't think those are mutually exclusive. Not a fan of censorship but, don't be scared to nuke dumb crap. And that is what it really boils down to for me. Is there any value to it? No? *poof* Gone.
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senior master
There is a need for sites like 8-chan and Ogrish where freaks, extremists and conspiracists can let their fantasies run wild and jerk off among themselves. Noisy, offensive, but contained.
Unfortunately when a few of those same people infest social sites the regulars leave because they don't like weirdos or the garbage they post, like the 2M meltdown a couple of years ago.
The owners of a site can choose what audience they want; 2M got cleaned up (mostly) and has a following but after Anysub got taken over it is too late to kick them out because the moderates have gone.
I'd say Anysub has lost its purpose.
@Buttless I see and look at your words LITERALLY everywhere.
Not even the reviews you partake in make much sense.
I have come to believe you're just an elder fart or hiccup that revels in reading and repeating yourself.
I may be that person soon enough. But for FFS give it a rest
master
The biggest problem is that no new people come. Not even from dosmovies. And why not?
Because round a dozen of ultra right wing (and i mean hardcore)nationalists sits there the whole day. (there are also normal conservatives - i dont have any problem with that.)
I was trying to convince movie fans that are my friends to try it. Whether especially left nor right.
comment: "Hey dosmovies is great. But anysubjekt ? climate change denier, white supremasists etc. What do you want there? thats just waste of time"
i dont think so, but there is much truth in it.
and another thing:
to post links and articles isnt hard to do. But hardly anybody writes post from his own brain. I produced at least 5 video clips and really long articles when i think its interesting. Thats mostly past now.
Just flooding the site with anything from FOX and far worse stuff is boring.
And another word: hail Judge Dredd: he ist the best mod around and life is just like this: if you guys feel lets say a bit inferior towards him in intellectual challenging stuff....
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@JudgeDredd Hahaha! You insist on your question, yet mine is so simple and still is swinging like a gallows tree. Maybe somebody step up, somebody with XY combo in his body. Ok, I am stopping here, I don't want to be accused of being a sexist (again)
@Omenomen XXzedra was ultra (banned)
Stephen 19 posts antisemitic stuff all time
not to speak of all the nazi posters that were banned
there were some REALLY hardcore freaks
and of course all who upclick these and vote for Trump
Then there are rather harmless cases like Oldshunter who still thinks Venezuela is in Europe
and there are some conservatives that are smart and like the republicans used to be (till 2016)
example: Mr.Kim (on my friends list) Bready, you and some others
notabene: I was a Bush (SENIOR of course) supporter
Mr.Kim has a good word for his spektrum "strict constitutionalist"
as a lawyer i liked it instantly
Trump&supporters left this field LONG Ago
skilled
Bah! Bush was a cockroach. But I understand you, you didn't have much choice anyway.
Zedra is the coolest guy on the site so far, followed by Tamperer, also known as AMBULANCE CHASER!!! 
LOL! And then, ladies and gentlemen, my awesomeness 
And how awesome I am one can figure out by reading my statuses (anysubj) 
God
Doc...If you don't permit freedom...there will be no one there. I thought I might stop in after the Presidential Election, laugh, and get banned from @anysubject. This is NOT, under ANY definition, freedom. ..."The Site Administration has the right but is not obliged to check the Site for prohibited Content and can delete or remove (without giving advance notice) any Content or Users at its own discretion for any reason or without reason" LOL! That's absurd! That FITS the definition of censorship...or dictatorship! Why would ANYONE want to post on a site, in which he has no rights? A place where the truth gets him banned...and at moderators discretion? You wanted to know .."What's wrong with the site? What you don't like about the site? Only honest opinions please."...Well there it is. If you are going to have a site for discussion..Discussion cannot be regulated by one person's opinion. There is NOTHING more important than freedom of speech. ...
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@PriscillaParadox🍁 Hey, Jade! What's up? Is wonderwoman coming to the rescue?
@Omenomen Naw. She's a bit selfish and pig-headed, but Captain Marvel offended too many manly men so I changed.
@PriscillaParadox🍁 Although I have no idea what you are talking about...I defend your right to say that. Ist amendment.
@bondojoe I am not subject to your silly little constitution, little feller, and apparently those that are still cherry pick the things that suit them and ignore the things that don't anyway, so basically it's a useless little rag.
@PriscillaParadox🍁 Once again...I applaud your right to make comments..but find them irrelevant.
@bondojoe ANd once again as well, what you find relevant is empty and meaningless and often illegal in many jurisdictions so applaud all you want little man. I found you irrelevant long before you had a hissy fit over yonder. Don't you have some pestilence to spread?
@PriscillaParadox🍁 I'm sorry that I don't understand you... that was gibberish. But of course ...you have the RIGHT to express it!
@PriscillaParadox🍁 You hate america and americans we get it. No need to run down our constitution or our bill of rights.none of your business if you don't live in this country.
@bondojoe It says a great deal how the left had the problem with freedoms and the right has a problem with losing freedoms. Those who don't know history are damned to repeat it.
skilled
What nobody is addressing is that by allowing anything that might be construed as hate speech to go unchecked, it puts both the site and more specifically Doc, in some very real jeopardy.
The key phrase here is '...might be construed as...', whether you agree with it or not. You don't get to pick, some agency makes that determination.
Let's say Doc calls off the mods and the usual suspects go on a high speed runaway. The next thing that happens is it does indeed draw more sympathetic users to the forum, all espousing the same vitriolic 'Free Speech'.
So then some users finally get to the point where they report the site to the Southern Poverty Law Center and they list anysubj as a hate site. Once listed on SPLC, the site listing propagates to all the other watchdog sites and eventually draws the attention of certain three-letter agencies along with Google and social media (bad news travels fast).
Remember the hyper-sensitive times we're in, it can happen.
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@WAGB283 Thank you God!!!! Finally someone that sees the big picture and the actual reason behind moderation.
Although I entirely agree with you on the possible classification of the Hate Site designation, I should add the other parameters that made Moderation not just a requirement but an absolute necessity.
Criminal Law: Online bullying, abuse, harassment, stalking, intimidation, threatening conduct, defamation, racism, sexism, hate speech, incitement to violence, hateful conduct, unlawful conduct, breach of copyright, obscenity, and countless others are criminal offences. The online medium and internet anonymity rarely shields the perpetrators even with the use of VPN devices. And that is simply because of the nature of the Internet related legislation which requires ISP's to report to the national supervisory body, any instances of breach of applicable terms and conditions, including illegality. If no measures are undertaken by the ISP's themselves, heavy financial penalties or suspension of their operating licenses are expected, especially in cases of gross violations of the laws. Obviously, such measures are usually reserved for instances of illegality that are pending in the applicable national courts and which require a simple criminal complaint by a natural person. And we havent even gotten to the responsibility/liability of the social media websites yet. You see where this is going?
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@WAGB283 No. So called hate speech (giving politically unfavorable views or cracking jokes) does not put him in jeopardy. What puts him in jeopardy is very nature of the site. This type of site is illegal in so called civilized (read orwellian world), and that is why we like it. But we also like freedom of speech.
@WAGB283 I'll take the first amendment...over any group that sanctions it. "Hate speech in the United States is not regulated due to the robust right to free speech found in the American Constitution. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that hate speech is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment.
Hate speech in the United States - Wikipedia
@bondojoe Thats nice, but we are not registered or located in the US.
Even if we were, the 1st Amendment regulates the interactions between the government and its citizens and as such doesnt apply to legal entities or exchanges between natural persons.
@JudgeDredd Where you are located is irrelevant. Either the site can provide a healthy discourse between people, or it provides censorship. If it cannot provide freedom of speech to Americans, the British, or other Europeans here, and those that live in countries where freedom is sacrosanct...then it cannot provide a service that we can use...other than providing movies. Simply just say that we are not allowed to speak the truth, even if it offends other people, and we will go elsewhere. If the right to free speech is not sancrant here... those that live by the first amendment SHOULD leave of their own accord. I have known many people that have..and it looks like more are on their way. There's hardly a point in waiting until you are banned.
@bondojoe Freedom of Speech does not equal to Freedom to Abuse others. The following are your limitations while you participate in the forums. Its not rocket science, just common sense based on the principle of respect for your fellow man. If you cant understand that, then you are not fit to participate in any society, including this one.
"You shall not defame, stalk, bully, abuse, harass, threaten, impersonate or intimidate people or entities and you shall not post private or confidential information via DosMovies, including, without limitation, yours or any other person's credit card information, social security or alternate national identity numbers, non-public phone numbers or non-public email addresses.
You shall not create or submit unwanted email, comments, likes or other forms of commercial or harassing communications (spam) to any of DosMovies users."
@JudgeDredd Everyone understands that. It's not brain surgery. THIS is the problem..." ."The Site Administration has the right .. but is not obliged to check the Site for prohibited Content and can delete or remove (without giving advance notice) any Content or Users at its own discretion for any reason or without reason" ..It's like taxation without representation. That's why Americans fought the civil war. There's NO reason for a statement like "."The Site Administration has the right" It's total dictatorship. You can muddy the waters all that you like. Clear thinking people will see the problem with that policy. I SAID the same thing that you said, in an earlier post..." As long as you aren't threatening anyone, or disclosing personal information...it's just words." You can stretch this out forever..but this IS absurd...and the reason that people will leave... ...
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@bondojoe If you understand that I dont see where the problem is. If you respect your fellow man you will never have to worry about any prescribed limitations in the ToS.
I think you are confusing social media sites with parliamentary processes. Your participation in social media does not produce any legal rights and responsibilities, in the sense that your opinion does not affect any legislative process or governmental policy.
What you are asking is not a democratic process. This is a private site. As such any discussion about equality of rights amounts to a business partnership. This is the only way where you can enjoy the same rights as the owner of the website. That means that you would have to enjoy not only the benefits but the liabilities as well. Do you see where this is going?
In regards to the language of the ToS, it is absolutely essential to protect the site against the liability of its members. But in order to claim a disclaimer of such liability, one has to prove that he has effective and unlimited control, in order to demonstrate proactive measures undertaken to limit exposure to any such potential liability. This is common and an essential element in all business structures and models. Have a look at ANY Terms and Conditions and you will discover similar if not identical language. In that sense, are you seriously expecting that any private entity will shed away from its legal protection just so you can feel unburdened from potentially perceived dictatorial conduct?
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@PriscillaParadox🍁 LOL! Are you going somewhere? I'm waiting to see if things change...or if I get thrown off for speaking the truth! But I DO think I will exit, until President Trump is re-elected. THEN I will come back and enjoy the ambiance.
@bondojoe I'm not going anywhere little bodyshop boy. And you won't be back because that nazi is going to jail very soon.
@PriscillaParadox🍁 Little bodyshop boy?
Can we be a little more respectful toward people of different opinion? Especially when they did not come after us first.
@Omenomen Racism and bigotry is not a difference of opinion. If you are a trump supporter, you support racism and bigotry and certainly deserve absolutely no respect from decent, moral, ethical people.
@PriscillaParadox🍁 Yes, I do support Trump, thanks.
By the way, Captain Marvel picture is better. More fits to your nature. It's somehow luxuriant.
@Omenomen Trump is a worthless sack of sh*t and every single person who supports him is a worthless sack of sh*t. They deserve nothing but derision and a stick to wipe them off of the shoes of decent people.
@PriscillaParadox🍁 Jade you have zero idea about how we think. I have an opinion of you don't doubt that. As far as my president goes, it is none of your business. State your opinions on your country whatever socialist sh*thole it might be, it has to be a fabulous place if there are lots like you.
@bondojoe As long as you speak the truth in a respectful way, you will never be thrown out.
In any case, what the heck are you so worried? I am not interested in moderating in here. I was named Mod here to tackle residual abuse from the banned members of Anysubj.
Did you see me importing the implementing rules of the ToS that apply to Anysubj? No
senior master
Sticks and stones can break my bones but words can never hurt me. Didn't we all learn that when we were six ? Assholes and their words can only hurt you as much as you let them. Most often civility is reciprocated. When it's not, take comfort in the fact that it's obvious to everyone who is the jerk and who is not. If you want to dish it out, you have to take it as well.Keep in mind anyone can have a bad day. Let bygones be bygones.A little slack, understanding and forgiveness can go a long way.Buckle up buttercup or don't participate.
master
Hmmm....suggestions for Anysubj.com. I'm not sure how exactly to help get more members online over there. I wish I could help advertise the site. I just don't have enough internet presence to make a difference. I hardly ever get on facebook. I don't do twitter or instagram. The only online community I'm really part of is this one.
Maybe one suggestion and I'm not sure if it will help or not. Some people may be turned off by all the political posts from the extreme right or left. Why not leave politics off the little anysubj box here on two movies? Also leave political posts off the home page for anysubj so that a prospective new member will not see them unless they specifically click on the politics community. That is the only suggestion I can think of.
I really wish I could help bring more traffic to the sites because I love both of them and would hate to see either go.
@rickgrimesrocks Actually we have (almost) done both. The Admin banned politics in 2M permanently and temporarily in Anysubj. He also removed the visibility of the posts on Politics in the Best posts on anysubj.com box here in 2M.
In any case, I would like to thank you for your concern and your kind offer to assist.
top expert
This is the last time i`m going to be posting in this thread, and having read through the above, i stand by my initial thought that any sub stuff belongs there. The things that Tamperer71 are posting are not only stupid but potentialy life threatening.Insecure people and people with emotional issues may be swayed by the thing`s he / she is saying. The few who seem to be defending him and doing so by insulting and belittling others has no place here.
@Stickmanuk Interestingly, this is exactly what got him banned from Anysubj, as well as all the others who were in the business of insulting and belittling others 
master
This is quite a good expression of Judgys Mod-Job.
so show some respect
(notabene: Judgy is NOT the one on the right or middle)
q.e.d.
if you guess the movie, i might send you an orio
senior master
you cats on the left are definitely the most clannish group I've ever encountered as you all wanna run around telling one another just how great your decisions are and backslapping one another
Wow, that sounds good. How do I join?
@Buttless If I remember correctly any.sudj was supposed to be a refuge for those of us that enjoyed a bit of to and fro and then it turned into something akin to Twitter and wasn't fun anymore once the cancel culture mob crossed over and the rules became draconian. So I decided to stay away. Just couldn't resist replying to your comment. -GC 
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admin
I need someone to summarize all this stuff posted in a couple of sentences.
As I understand one group of people wants anarchy, another one - the law. This is not possible.
Maybe mods should be less strict, I'm not sure. I will ask JD to react only to complaints that users send.
@Dr.Evil If you allow this person (sure you can guess who) continue to sling sh*t, the problems will never end.
He has no boundaries and is the most hateful person I've ever known on here.
As a matter of fact this person sent me a message just to be confrontational (which I have ignored.) There will never be any peace if people like this are allowed to spew their hate.
The reason I don't visit here often is people like this make this site much less enjoyable. There's enough stress in this world right now without this crap.
Thanks for asking
@Dr.Evil Ok, stated simply and succinctly AGAIN Doc.
Make the political and religious sections of the forum at anysub a no-holds barred free for all zone and stop trying to sanitize it with heavy handed agendized moderation.
If a user chooses to enter those areas of the forum they are doing so of their own free will and all complaints should be ignored.
That was supposed to have been the point in the creation of anysub so why has it simply turned into an extension of Dos Movies instead?
I understand such discussions aren't for everyone so why should it be a problem for those who prefer to stay out of such discussions to simply not go there in the 1st place 
@Dr.Evil In previous discussions about the formation of anysub and even discussions about the political forums on the old 2 Movies I offered a solution to that exact issue.
Make a hard and fast rule that ALL political conversations were allowed ONLY within the confines of that category and moderators should be empowered to enforce that rule by deletion of politically based threads placed in other categories and if the user continues to drag politics elsewhere they should be reprimanded and or banned, problem solved.
@Dr.Evil Like the posts here I read almost every day filled with stealthy condescension, which is really nothing short of hateful speech, by members that never gets a whiff of moderation?
Or are you speaking about the constant claims of racism by members who inspect every nook and cranny of anothers posts always in search of anything they can then deem as infectious racism?
I've read multiple posts here claiming others were racists just because they support President Trump and claim no other proof is even necessary, so is that not hate speech?
I damned sure see it that way, but you, nor any other mod has ever heard me complain to you about these remarks because I see their validity as very telling of the mentality of the poster, so why should I bother?
The real problem here is that conservatives always welcome any point of view as valid while the left continually seeks to silence those who oppose them.
@Dr.Evil > As I understand one group of people wants anarchy, another one - the law.
Very insightful way of putting it, exactly so.
> I will ask JD to react only to complaints that users send.
As both Omenomen and Mouse deduced, all that will result in is having both sides continually lodging complaints against the other. The results will be that JD will still be doing the same thing he is doing now, but with a flooded inbox.
It's almost impossible to walk a middle line with this sort of thing, you want to make sure the (Российская Федерация) law is on your side in this, anarchy won't serve you well, if at all.
Consider JD's advice, he's more knowledgeable in internet law and jurisdictions, by far, than anything most of us could provide.
@WAGB283 Such a sadness that anyone would view the ability to just speak freely as anarchy.
I'm not trying to say I support racism, sexism or the other litany of -isms and -obias as I don't.
Like's already been stated above people who do will make that case individually and it then becomes apparent for others to see.
There's no need for censorship or moderation in topics regarding politics or religion as ANY such type action will always be called out by free thinking people as a demand for submission to the censorers position which is hardly anything resembling open communication.
@mrkim56 I agree in principle, but consider that everyone who posts is not you and may not have your regard for ethics and civility, any opinion can be expressed without devolving into what some could interpret as hate, that determination is not just subjective in many jurisdictions.
But again, everyone who posts is not 'you'.
And, yes, there are actual laws that the site can be found in violation of if it is determined that the site owner didn't exercise due diligence in it's regulation.
Also consider that there is no 1st amendment in the Russian Federation (where this site is registered) and that Russian law vis-a-vis 'speech' is somewhat, shall we say, 'mutable' in that regard.
What all that boils down to is that regardless of what some of us, on this side of the pond, may consider as a God given (or at least Constitutional) right, the world is a lot bigger place that America, and if your on this site, you're 'not in Kansass anymore, Toto'.
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The only thing I wish I could do on here that I can't, is to reorder my playlist lists. Be able to change the order. Everything else is perfect especially you doc!
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I don't have a problem with anysubj. Many times i read funny posts and i am having fun. I also learn new things from users while we chat. I would like to see it more cosmopolitan, like having arabs, eastern europeans, russian, chineese, israelis, latin american e.t.c users. I know there are present watching the movies and the topics but they don't declare active in the chat. I ask myself "why". So an answer i give to myself is that they think it's an "american social chat". I wouldn't say far right or far left or whatever. I seen users from left and right wings chating and there are disapointed ppl from both the sides. This is normal as politics constantly disapoint ppl on every direction lol. So what makes it "an american social site"? is it the language that has to be english... No. Must be something else. The site is what users make of it. As a start to become more cosmopolitan is maybe to have parts (subforums attached to the main) that will attract users from a certain region (for example European Forum, Asian, e.t.c ) But then again this to be realized would require more web design work and more moderation in numbers. This would give Doc and JD extra work. Would that be possible? I don't know. Isn't democracy what we make of it? Do we deserve something more when we vow for something less?
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Again, this thread is a textbook on what you don't want on a website.
Fairly obvious.
guru
I knew this was a pro-Trump channel in the forums long before 2016. Politics is not a problem.
The worst of this is the channel page set up. There is more hardcore pornography on any site I can think of.
No, it is just this one alone. Hard Core pornography.
And moderators approved by Dr. Evil.
master
Here is my summary Dr.Evil :
1. All the banned members of Anysubj want the rules abolished;
2. All the remaining members who are repeat offenders want my head on a platter;
3. Everybody is innocent of everything;
4. The other side is to blame for everything;
5. When the "Conservative" side abuses, its called freedom of Speech;
6. When that side is on the receiving end of the abuse, its called persecution;
7. Dispensing Warnings, is ban bait;
8. Dispensing Suspensions is retribution and abuse of power;
9. The ToS serves a communist dictatorial agenda;
10. We are funded by Soros and the Gates/Clinton Foundations.
The only useful thing I learned from this thread, is that if you treat people in the same way they treat you, they get offended.
@JudgeDredd what a whine-fest, but fair enough, you spoke your mind, so here's my thoughts for the counter-view:
1. All the banned members of Anysubj want the rules abolished;
Just the ones that confound real and open communication.
2. All the remaining members who are repeat offenders want my head on a platter;
Hardly a truism. What most folks seem to want is actual neutral moderation, not ham-fisted agendized moderation. Sadly I honestly don't feel you're capable of such actions, at least not by what I've seen displayed.
3. Everybody is innocent of everything;
By the definitions you've made public in your ban thread about the only things that could be considered innocent are conversations about cute lil puppies and kittens. Any topic past that gets scoured for any type of dissenting comments or opinions you can find and then admonish.
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@JudgeDredd not sure exactly by what type of convoluted logic you can make such a statement but like I always say you're certainly welcome to hold an opposing view.
For myself I'm just glad that voices from outside your circle were actually allowed to be spoken freely for once without you threatening every dissenting view being stated.
Dude, as harshly as this conversation has turned against your moderation tactics perhaps it's time you stop just trying to deny everything and take a few steps back and try looking at your previous actions from a more objective position 
@mrkim56 "perhaps it's time you stop just trying to deny everything and take a few steps back and try looking at your previous actions from a more objective position"
I think you should take your own advice here
@JudgeDredd Exactly the type and tenor of reply I expected.
Neither you nor I are omniscient on ANY topic.
I just wish you could put away your ego and grasp that yours is NOT the only view that holds validity.
Bottom line is I like you dude but you're never gonna get me to say I enjoy your thuggish, one sided moderation style. Just not gonna happen.
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What a pair of twats, screenshot speaks for itself... These are the type of people poisoning this website because they have been rejected from Anysubject.....
@𝓜𝓸𝓾𝓼𝓮*🐭 Isnt it strange how serene Anysubj feels now, by comparison to this particular thread?
Who would have thought that one day we could claim that?
@JudgeDredd Serene, indeed. Like a desert full of dead bones. Of course, it's serene when you silenced everybody you dislike with the button, and don't have anybody to contradict you.
Now, the average number of the users is 5-8 at the moment. It should make you proud.
@Dr.Evil Ok, Doc. Maybe it is. You have the data, who I am to contradict? And if so, great! Keep going!
But I will give you my little observation. When I jumped in, less than 5 months ago, I remember Paladin, BoonEvil, Fortunate1, CanyonD, Bondojoe, Kingoftrump, TRCII, Spitfire000, ОсвободиСвойРазум and PureVodka being regular there (not mentioning banned or suspended ones). They all left because of Dredd, the mod you made. All to one!
I challenge you to name me one single conservative, including the most moderate ones, who supports him as a mod, who agrees with the way he handles the site. A single one...
@Omenomen Hmmm....Lets see:
Paladin 15 Infractions
Racism, inappropriate and inflammatory comment, Public discussions concerning Moderator/Admin actions, Abuse, Abuse, Harassment, Abuse, Sexually suggestive content, Public discussions, inappropriate and inflammatory comment, abuse, Public discussions, Abuse, Defamation, Discrimination.
BoonEvil 10 Infractions
Public discussions, Racism, inappropriate and inflammatory comment, inappropriate and inflammatory comment, overly crude comment, Discrimination, Sexism, Public discussions, Public discussions, Abuse.
Fortunate1 4 Infractions
Personal attack, Abuse, Hate Speech, Abuse.
CanyonD 5 Infractions
Hate Speech, Spam, Bigotry, Hate Speech, Sexism.
Bondojoe No Infractions
Kingoftrump 4 Infractions
Hate Speech, Personal attack, Personal attack, Public discussions.
TRCII 1 Infraction
Racism
Spitfire000 3 Infractions
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@JudgeDredd ОсвободиCвойPазум 7 Infractions
Incitement to Violence, Incitement to Violence, Republishing flagged content, Racism, Incitement to violence, Abuse, Incitement to violence.
PureVodka 11 Infractions
Public discussions, Abuse, Bullying, Inappropriate and inflammatory comment, Bullying, Violent content, Personal attack, Public discussions, Sexually explicit content, Public discussions, Public discussions.
Why is it that the people who have received the least (or none) of the infractions, are the ones screaming the loudest about "Persecution"?
Just wondering....
@JudgeDredd Oh, really?
Since we are opening files, I will come up with my list. You see, Joseph, you always claim you are non biased and strict to the rules. Well, you are not. Here are some examples.
I was complaining to you I was mistreated in the chat in a perfid, "civilized" way. You didn't react.
I was compared to an animal. You didn't react.
I reported Adrian's scornful coment about a church being burned, you didn't react.
I reported Box for his "little guy from Nazareth" comment, you didn't react.
You didn't react when Mouse called Zedra a creep.
You didn't react when Jade, on numerous occasions, called out Trump supporters, by various names. Oh, pardon me, you gave her 7 hours the last time.
Vodka the sexist guy, huh? But Adrian's awful comments about anal sex and Don's shameful chatting with TheSystem didn't catch your eye.
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@Omenomen So let me get this straight. When I moderate you have a problem. When I am asked by the other Mods, after my initial warnings and suspensions, to stand back to give you guys breathing room to express yourselves, I am biased (and you have a problem of course).
Xanthe made the comment on an avalanche of stupidity without making any direct reference. Tamperer made an explicit reference to Xanthe. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Now, please forgive the delay. It took me a while to track down the comment where I called you deluded. BUT I DID!!!....So, in the interest of clarity (and CONTEXT), I will post my reply to Bread when he challenged my reply to you as a personal attack. This is what you said:
"Trump said for escorts and so called celebrities: "You can do to them whatever you want. You can grab them by the pu**y". Not for women in general. And we know that is true. Those women do everything for money." = SEXISM
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@JudgeDredd Nice. I feel redeemed now. Knowing somebody else suffers for my sins.
Now, cut the pathetic.
First of all, I said: "All the 7 images did not include the same content". That means you could not give me the same infractions for the all the 7.
And now, white supremacy. You are twisting it. She never denied slavery or racism. The context of the post was that we all should take responsibility, acknowledge and other leftist crap. The point is that black are not oppressed TODAY! And she is RIGHT!
And do not twist my words. I never said your decision about Female was worst ever. I said that was the trigger. You knew the context and you played dumb and gave her a ban.
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@Omenomen "First of all, I said: "All the 7 images did not include the same content". That means you could not give me the same infractions for the all the 7."
Really? How did you figure that? Will you for once in your life READ THE RULES!!!!
As for White Supremacy.....I am twisting it? "The context of the post was that we all should take responsibility, acknowledge and other leftist crap". Did you even read it? Evidently not. Okay, time for some context then. The article was titled: "Lady Gaga Goes All In: “We All Drink the Poison That Is White Supremacy."
The relevant parts:
"We can’t say we’re exactly surprised that Lady Gaga has overdosed on blue pill, critical race theory ideology, but it’s still dismally disappointing to see yet another influential celebrity buy into arguments that are as thin as they are dangerous."
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@JudgeDredd I am not going to the rules again because every debate about the rules end with the golden one: "Administration has right with or with no reason..."
That is the point. It wasn't about slavery and historic racism at all. It was/is now. And Female asked who are WE? Really, who are WE, Joseph?
And by the way, I have to ask you something. And it ain't rhetorical. Cause almost every single fraction is about racism, is there something personal in there? All the transgressors were accused of racism toward blacks (maybe Jewish and Asian from time to time). So, it gotta be all of them being white.
So, my question is: do you feel less white? Oppressed by white people? You obsessively search for racist insinuations, so I just wonder.
Maybe it sounded sarcastic, but it isn't. Try to give an honest answer.
@JudgeDredd For God's sake, what we are talking about? The entire post was not about that. Nor anybody in the comment section was talking about the past. That Lady Gaga's acknowledging (or whoever it was) was about today. And Female's message was obviously: "No, f**k you, I am not acknowledging I am benefiting from my white skin". That was what she said.
@Omenomen No. She said: "Who is "we"? White supremacy is a myth made up by people who hate whites even if they themselves are white."
And she was judged for exactly that. Your interpretation remains your own and is not substantiated by the facts.
@JudgeDredd Oh, and yours is substantiated. Yeah. From that sentence you clearly see something like: "Slavery never happened". Yup. Ok.
@JudgeDredd , I'm late to the party on this one so I just hafta know how anyone stating "Who is "we"? White supremacy is a myth made up by people who hate whites even if they themselves are white." can be construed as racist?
Being that I'm in agreement with that statement does that also mean I'll be receiving another whacking from the ban hammer?
I'm white, have worked for everything I've ever received in life since I was 15 so how has my white priviledge benefited me above anyone with different amounts of melatonin?
Only within the lib/victim mindset mentality is racism even an issue for anyone.
Again, this is simply another example of how your positional bias influences and indeed drives your moderatory actions.
But yeah, I get it, you CAN NOT see it that way, nor are you likely ever to which is exactly what's wrong with you holding the position of a moderator.
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@mrkim56 You know I am getting rather tired of the ban hammer references. Its as if I am threatening bans in every post in here. This is quite amusing if one considers that I have so much evidence in this thread alone to ban everyone for life and then some. Yet you are all still here.
"Only within the lib/victim mindset mentality is racism even an issue for anyone."
Finally something we agree on. Because if you are not a victim of Racism, the entire concept is alien to you. The same applies to sex discrimination. Because you belong in the dominant sex, you cannot perceive unequal treatment in the workplace towards women, because as a man you were never subjected to it.
"A moderator should always be impartial, something you seem completely incapable of."
Thats an interesting statement. Please explain to me how can a person that is obviously partial can detect and appreciate impartiality?
@JudgeDredd How apropos that you've grown so tired of hearing about your trusty ban hammer when that's been a centerpiece of many of the dissenting views posted within this thread, or to be more succinct, how some have grown tired of its misuse.
As far as banning me for my comments here, yeah, been wondering at what point you'll finally grow tired of having to continually defend your indefensible position and do so. Doing so actually wouldn be out of character, so ...
No, we're most certainly are not going to agree to your versions of racist or even sexist theory.
This is not to say racism and sexism are never present in our societies since truly both do exist, though hardly as dominant aspects of it. Secondly, racism can be experienced by all races, just as sexual discrimination can be experienced by both sexes so it's hardly the one way street you see it as.
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@mrkim56 So impartial would be someone that ignores you when you become racist or sexist towards another.
Thanks for clarifying.
@JudgeDredd That's twice now within this thread you've tried to put words in my mouth that I did not say. Perhaps a brush up on those reading and comprehension skills would be beneficial in helping you stay focused on what's actually been said versus the agendized dialogue you seem to automatically generate inside your own head. Just a thought.
But, I get it man, when no agregious racist comments have actually been made you just can't help yourself in trying to create one out of thin air, which is exactly my point. So, thanks for having made it so eloquently for me by having issued a ban on another user for having done so.
Part of the problematic actions you continually display in your agenda driven actions as a moderator is that you seem incapable of being able to distinguish the difference between what is actually a racist statement and what is merely an opinion on the topic of racism. This is especially so when that statement is afoul of YOUR individual views on the topic. Yet somehow you continue to claim neutrality ... yeah, in a pigs eye!
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@mrkim56 Its becoming painfully obvious that you cant understand the meaning of words, even when they come out of your own mouth.
With this charade of yours, the only thing that you have proven is that you advocate for anarchy, while at the same time you support the extreme right expression of racist sentiment without lawful retribution and repercussions.
You think of me as an unfit Mod, when in fact you are an unfit Member. The sad thing is that you actually think that my boot heel is on your throat, when in fact I allow you the opportunity to abuse me, in a misguided effort to let you vent and become a more productive and tolerant member.
But do not for a moment mistake that allowance I make here as an opportunity to incite a rebellion there. Because in that eventuality, I assure you that you will feel both my heels jumping up and down on your throat. And this is not a threat. Its reality. Ask Omenomen, Frac, Tamperer, Zedra. They all tried sedition. Didnt end well for any of them.
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@JudgeDredd Actually your statements above constitute a direct threat of possible retribution on anysub for things having been said both here and there.
Secondly you've now even singled out others who've faced your wrath, how very impartial and professional of you for having done so.
And now you've elevated yourself to the point where disagreements now rank as sedition?
My, my, your overblown ego is worse than I'd have ever given you credit for!
Don't expect me to be taking a knee either to my throat or in fealty to you either.
Sorry, just not in my nature to be subjugated in either manner.
@mrkim56 Subjugated? Is that what you call it?
I got news for you buddy. You are here of your own free volition. By using the services provided to you, you have expressly agreed to abide by the rules of the site. These rules provide for limitations to your conduct in order to safeguard an equitable and unencumbered enjoyment of rights by all members alike. You have expressly accepted these limitations, therefore you have literally put the knee to your throat, as you like to call it. You have subjugated yourself, not the other way around.
@Omenomen You've made several good points. Many of these transgressors have blocked me. I am most grateful, thank you. Why is that not an option for all those to take offense so easily? I'm my case most have blocked me, but I've blocked a couple, too.
Offer that as a solution when it fits.
@Omenomen Ooops....Forgot about you. Sorry:
Omenomen 110 Infractions
16 instances of Inappropriate and Inflammatory comments
8 Instances of infringing conduct
8 Instances of Defamation
9 instances of Abusive Conduct
8 instances of Personal attacks against the Administration
7 instances of Stalking
7 instances of Bullying
7 instances of Harassment
7 instances of Threatening Conduct against the Administration
7 instances of Intimidation
7 instances of Incitement to Violence
7 instances of Spam
7 instances of Hateful Conduct
4 instances of Overly crude comments
2 Instances of Publicly discussing Admin Actions
Congratulations. You hold the High Score amongst your companions, who only hold 60 infractions combined.
@JudgeDredd I don't think it's appropriate of you to PUBLICLY post members "errors"
Just my 2cents...
@CollideDuhScope The infractions are publicly recorded on the Enforcement Threads, which remain accessible to all members, at all times for transparency reasons.
The Enforcement Threads were made public from the very beginning as an educational tool to all Members, on the ways and means of the interpretation and application of the rules.
@JudgeDredd I didn't realize that.
Can't say I agree with that thread either.
Where?
I know I received one the last I replied to someone.
You 'learn't' me good
@CollideDuhScope It was never intended to be perceived as public shaming. It was designed from the outset to record violations so members could get acquainted with the rules. The examples of what NOT to do.
Every infraction is recorded, including the name of the Member, the offending statement, the rule violated, the location of the violation and the applicable rule(s) that apply to the infraction in question. It looks like that:
MrDeath 3d infraction, 3d warning
"Nigga Cockroach POS"
Racism, Hate Speech, inappropriate and inflammatory comment
anysubj.com/p/Black-Lives-Mat ter...
"Posts which promote or containing racism, sexism or bigotry (including a viewpoint in relation to those) are subject to removal, and users who engage in posting such comments may be banned at the mods' discretion."
"The User shall not post violent, nude, discriminatory, unlawful, infringing, hateful, pornographic or sexually suggestive photos or other content via AnySubj"
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@JudgeDredd Yeah. Keep complaining of a harmless cartoon. You are so phony in telling me that it was actually hilarious. At the same time, you admitted you wanted me 6 months out. Thanks Nasos, I got only one.
And you know what? Your maths is just a disaster. I made a comic of 7 pics, but not all of them with the same content, so you can not count 7 bullyings, 7 harassings, etc. They have different dialogue. And again, you should be ashamed of yourself. Grown man, so thin-skinned. People have been sent to gulags for the same thing. And you are offended by being called a commie pu**y. But you know what, you would be a wonderful party member in the Eastern hemisphere 6o years ago.
P.S. Everybody who wants to see work of mine (the comic book) pm me. I keep my exile memories as trophies.
@JudgeDredd It is strange. And those who have been expelled from there come over here to pollute this site with their venomous hate. Very sad.
I haven't had anything to do with these vile people, yet they attack without any provocation.
@𝓜𝓸𝓾𝓼𝓮*🐭 Since I have been on the receiving end of such attacks for the past 10 months, I can tell you one thing with absolute certainty:
Taking into account that these people operate under the "if you are not with us, you are against us", the fact that you, I and anybody else exists, is the provocation.
@JudgeDredd Yep, that seems to be the case. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread it seems they feel "someone pissed in their Cheerios" and they're out for blood basically.....
senior master
As the adjudicator, a judge should be recused if he or she may not be impartial because of a personal, political or financial interest in the parties, counsel, or another aspect of the case. Under the Due Process Clause of the Constitution, everyone is entitled to an impartial judiciary in a case.
I've brought this up to you tactfully, Judge Dredd many times.
It's clear to all you have a side. Behold the result.
This circumstance is reversible. It's up to you.
@Bread&Circuses I wish I could believe this situation to be reversable but I don't.
Zebras can't lose their stripes, leopards their spots, nor liberals their biases.
I wish I could believe otherwise but a long lifes lessons have proven that people rarely if ever change once they reach maturity.
@Bread&Circuses "Under the Due Process Clause of the Constitution, everyone is entitled to an impartial judiciary in a case."
Have you read the 5th and the 14th Amendments? Because this isnt what they say:
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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@JudgeDredd Did you completely miss the point of my comment? I really hope not. If one is a hammer, everything they see is a nail. If one a lawyer, is everything they see an argument they're compelled to win despite the cost? Remember the next line after this ?
@Bread&Circuses Did you miss the point of my reply? Sure sounds that way.
Please allow me to repeat it:
"In any case, regarding the impartiality. Because we know that everyone that ever graced the enforcement threads is calling their suspensions a result of biased moderation on the basis of political belief, we brought in Judge Pestilence who holds a political ideology closer to your side of the fence. Its funny but I havent heard of any complaints on his impartiality from your side. I wonder why that is...."
@JudgeDredd I confess I didn't make it passed your bloviatory preamble. Thank you for your repeat. JP has a much lighter touch, not only in jurisprudence, but MOST importantly in his commentary. One may deduce from his very few comments he may be sympathetic to my political persuasion, but it's more than obvious by your comments and retorts not only which side your on, but the disdain you express for those whom you disagree. Often demeaning them with All that is fine for a user, not a mod. You claim to know the difference, I've not seen it. It saddens me a great deal. Think back on my tactful pleadings. Reflect or keep on as usual. I'm nearing the end of my efforts.
@Bread&Circuses Bloviatory preamble??? (is this demeaning? Really? Hmm...I will make a note to include emojis in the definition of abuse.)
Ehm...May I kindly remind you that you attacked my legal credentials by way of legal doctrine? And when I respond in kind, my reply is bloviatory but yours that triggered it isnt? Thank you for the practical example to your definition of impartiality.
On the rest of your remarks, you seem to confuse my private and public capacity. I dont.
@JudgeDredd , so here's a question worth finding the answer to just as well.
Have there been any protests lodged against JP for his actions as a mod?
The few times I've seen him weigh in on any thread his reasoning and responses seemed reasonable and fair, not seemingly having taken any particular side at all.
@mrkim56 Nice try. May I remind you that the details on the complaint reports are confidential? I havent revealed any information in here that didnt belong in the public domain.
"his reasoning and responses seemed reasonable and fair". They are, but the question here is why do you find them reasonable and fair? Thats a question worth finding the answer to.
@JudgeDredd Yep, understood as the answer would likely undermine your position, got it!
The convenience of the rules is this regard is amazing and simultaneously allows you to stealthily find refuge there once more, kinda like our inability to review, much less disagree with your actions publicly or even privately.
Again, how convenient such rules are when one so openly practices the type of thuggishness you so commonly display.
@JudgeDredd How very petty and witless for you to even court such an idea.
Keep it up, you're doin a great job of showing the dark underbelly of your individual character.
@JudgeDredd , you repeated my quote "his reasoning and responses seemed reasonable and fair".
Then went further and stated/queried
"They are, but the question here is why do you find them reasonable and fair?"
Oh my, so I guess perhaps this is actually some stealthy claim that JPs actions have NOT been metered, fair and equitable. Is that your tack here?
Simple enough to answer your question though really.
It's because his replies/responses didn't include obviously positionally driven judgements but clearly impartial statements of policy and requests for improvement in adherence by the offending user.
Just as was mentioned in my analogy, anyone can tell the difference between when a thuggish boot is or isn't against ones neck.
While I could easily make another analogy about how that boot is indeed very similar to the effect of a knee being positioned similarly but some targets are just too easy to hit, kinda like hunting in a baited field.
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@mrkim56 There is nothing stealthy about my approach. JP is an exceptional Mod with the right instincts for the job. The fact that he shares political ideology with you is the very same reason that you find his reasoning and responses reasonable and fair. This is even more so when at the same time you find mine unreasonable and unfair for the same performance.
Its not rocket science and along with his experience and clarity of thought, its one of the primary reasons we selected him. To give you an impression of having a Mod at your ideological side. And guess what? According to you, it works.
newbie
This thread is a long one and not what I thought be about. I guess from reading ( Okay, I skimmed a bunch) but there are three flavors of Hot Pizza posting:
first, the Hot Pizza with everything on it, they question the limits on freedom to post whatever they want to if it's posted or published somewhere else so should be okay.
second, those Hot Pizzas with only hot sausage, jalapeno and Habanero quick short sarcasm and snotty replies and then pile on the spicy hot sauce, like saloon bar bullies in westerns.
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Last flavor though is the deep dish New York Hot Pizza moderator replies are mostly long that got a lot of sarcasm feedbacks like self preservation and always right.
Wow that took a long time to write. I hope this helps your Hot Pizza figure things out.
master
member
My brain hurts from reading this thread. I agree that you can't have a mod who seems to the left or to the right but please continue to debate as it will either reinforce or change someone opinions. Pointless.
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