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Hi all.

I want to convey to you the following information. Recently, the cost of hosting and maintaining the site has become equal to the profit that it bears. The site is now on the brink of payback. At the same time, the site is quite risky for obvious reasons, even though we do not host anything.

If the project does not make a profit, then it is usually closed and a new project is created.
I thought bitcoin donations could save the day but all users ignore this message and prefer to use the site for free. We cannot accept donations in the form of paypal for obvious reasons.

What would you do if you were in administration?

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That is a tough question, as I have no idea what goes into running a site like this. I love this site and would do anything to help keeping it available. I've never used bitcoin, therefore it is something I will have to look into. I do know that it isn't available to use in Canada like it is in the U.S and other countries. If this site became a money pit then I think most of us with common sense would understand your dilemma in needing to shut it down. I really hope that doesn't have to happen. Your grateful friend Rosie

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Maybe make a forum (locked) topic for small Business ads.

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@PureVodka🍺 If I had a business I'd happily offer to put a link here. It'd be cool if the people whom use this site could also share their work, and repay the site in-kind.
Like one may see in a-lot of community Discord servers; "got a business? apply to share it here! If we like it; you can add a link and a blurb."

I'm not sure whether this is a valid opportunity now. It is a nice thought.

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@PureVodka🍺 Actually a good idea but payments will be still crypto

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For God's sake, can we get our act together?

I have already suggested once that we could transfer money to a user of our confidence and he or she makes then this Bitcoin thing, from which we shy away. (I hear from many Users that they shy away from it. Perhaps there is someone here who can give us a brief guide.)
Someone would have to make themselves available to do that.

If it can't be worked around, I'm going to get into bitcoin tonight and transfer 20€ to Doc every month from now on. I've been holding back so far because I'm not comfortable with it.... Is it even safe etc, etc...

Let's make this concrete. Maybe others can sign up here with an amount they are willing to pay monthly.

Doc could report back to us what the current status is each month - in percentages if he doesn't want to give numbers. We can then adjust our rates accordingly.

I think if 100 users pay a small amount, that should be enough. Right, Doc?

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@CitizenD I don't know how to use Bitcoin but your idea is great. I'm happy to send money to you to forward to Doc. Lets keep this site alive. smiley

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@SimonM Excellent! Thank you. smiley

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@SimonM Same here.

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@CitizenD If 100 users pledge €5 a month, that will cover almost everyting, but the important element here is that Bitcoin is legal most places, and INCREASES in value without any cryptomining.

Why cryptomining was even being discussed is idiotic.

Bitcoin can be left in Dr. Evil's account until it goes up in value... which is regularly.

He doesn't need to Crypto-mine, nor does anyone else.

Getting an account is as easy as ID and a debit card.

Those who have introduced it being traced after €5k is just silly.

WTF? You've not donated at all and you think you'll be traced?

Bitcoin is pouring into the Ukraine to HELP with the war and to REBUILD.

Sigh. I'm really sick of these excuses.

Do it or don't.

If not, let Dr. Evil burn this one down and start over.

Suggesting he turn this site over to users is.... INSULTING. ffs

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No one donates or gets in path of learning how to donate. You cannot teach people use btc and perhaps they wouldn't allow from you any type of related guidance. Links are hunted like pests and get deleted. Close even if it hurts! This I would do. Perhaps will hurt me too if I don't type my stupid comments in this forum of movies. C'est la vie pal.

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Expecting user donations to make this site commercially profitable seems rather an odd concept.

People are here to... do things for free. If they wanted to pay to stream they'd probably subscribe to a streaming service like Netflix or Amazon and not be here looking for free links to... low quality resources, which is surely what this site is all about.

That's not to say a percentage of users won't give donations from time to time, but I'd expect them to be very much in the minority (especially when taken in Bitcoin given the user demographic) and I certainly wouldn't expect them to donate more than contributions toward the cost of hosting.

Without you giving us any details on the hosting costs, traffic and bandwidth stats it's hard to make detailed suggestions but with that said some obvious ones would be:

Find a cheaper host for the site.
Reduce monthly bandwidth usage by leveraging aggressive cache lifetime settings on served images.
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@Lemming Еhe problem is not in hosting, but in the fact that the profit is so low that it is not worth the effort and work on the site at all, this is the problem. And the site itself goes on the verge of legality.

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@Dr.Evil Ah I see.
Well the site is established and seems to work well. Can you delegate most of that workload to volunteers - is it mostly moderation that's the burden?

You've got a great site here and even though it's not reaching Pirate Bay levels of international fame it'd be a real shame for us all to lose it.

I'm sure the community here would be able to help in all kinds of niche ways other than just donating and moderation.

As for legality the Pirate Bay is still online even now. And all the video hosting sites. And even Wikileaks. Just don't try escape to an embassy if they come for you. But that's a whole other kettle of hamsters... :D

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Well from a management stand point, you could, if possible, set up the site so that only premium accounts can view high quality videos(or whatever features) and pay a monthly fee, much like some other sites.

I mean yeah you might lose people, but those would likely be the ones who wouldn't pay anyway.

Or you can just call it a day. You provided a free service to people for 10+ years. All good things must come to an end.

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We need to save this site and and i would like to show an alternative to bitcoin, the currently only possibility to donate.
Prepaid cash cards!
They work like prepaid cards for phones but can be used like cash money/debit cards. here is how it works:
Market leader in europe is PAYSAFE card




www.paysafecard.com/en/

1. Doc would need a paysafe account, its free.
Ukraine is not listed amongst the available countries, but with VPN or account opened by user should easily be possible

2. Any user willing to donate can buy a paysafe card
availability is bearly everywhere, like prepaid phone cards.
e,g, most large supermarkt chains in Europe have it, drug store chains, newsstands, tabaccos etc. as well as posspble zo buy online.

3. no transfer costs, you get a sales receit in the shop that shows a 16 digit number code

4. send code to Doc,if typed in on account money pops up instantly
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lil problem is : a verified paysafe account can only be pumped up up to 5000 €. just transfer it to debit card account and make space. smiley smiley

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Not yet mentioned: there are many ways of "covered" transfer beneath crypto
Neteller, Skrill moneybookers, any poker accounts etc.

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@Adrian∞ My friend repeated transfers from to an account on the services u mentioned are easy to track. Apart from this, for geeks like Doc or me, even btc represents a threat at some point when it sums up into a single addy. Thus it can be traced potentially. This won't apply to the one case donation on the donor's side , meaning to be traced from malicious key servers /// @ Doc Pls Correct me here if I am wrong ///

In simple words for users that don't seem to realize and not for you Adrian is that the site is not acceptable by the laws (remember the accusations abt if the site is Russian on Doc and more about where the site is registered) more or less and walks on a thin line of a person taking this load of administration and couple bold admins handling the impossible. Most of the registered users also don't realize the process of hosting a movie box register that linkers add links, the work of the linkers , the DMCA wipe, the host fees or profits and much more which of course are hard or of no importance for them but absolutely important for the functionality of the site +/or the links .
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I don't know / do bitcoin, Dr.Evil, but I could send you a gift check to a P.O. Box for your birthday.
There's got to be a way.

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@Bread&Circuses Hiya Bread, I don't know how to use bitcoin either. I have also been using this site for many years for free, I will gladly pay a monthly fee to carry on and keep this site going, it is the Best site I've ever known, with the Best community of people, I pay £7 a month for Netflix, I refuse and can't afford to pay £100+ a month for the bigger greedy companies and would prefer my money to go to Doc.

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@ijaija I agree with you. I don't think that a small fee would lead to similar services. I wouldn't even imagine that! Perhaps still maintain this type of site- forum he has. I, as I said before, would close down and I wonder what his decisions would be.

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@Bread&Circuses Good idea! 💋

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a lot of sites use www.buymeacoffee.com/ try that and see how it goes there is a lot of sports sites that i know use it and seems vary safe to get donations

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@adthaone Also top idea! smiley smiley

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@adthaone Buymeacoffee is about the cleanest way to get money poured in your ear and out your nose straight into your bank acct, Voilà! smiley

However, if 2M doesn't have a bank or needs a 'leave-no-trail' situation, OR depends entirely on website income in todays world(?) what whut WHUT is the dealy0 with bitcoin or nuthin, and going bust again.
What am I missing??

*smiley PMUD's and SMUFF's advice is gold

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Why not add advertising? Look at other sites in this niche. They all run ads and seem to be fairly profitable. I'm not suggesting you stuff the site full of ads like some of them do, but I'm sure there's a middle-ground that can be found. Using a VPN affiliate program or ads here would probably work quite well. But I think ads in general are a must.

Another idea for donations is giving donators a special rank, or some sort of perk(s). I'd imagine more people would be willing to donate if they got something in return as a thank-you, even if that something isn't anything special, like having a golden name or something.

Thirdly, that other site that can't be named (I'm sure you know the one I'm talking about) made deals with videohosts for ranking positions. I believe some of them paid up to $1k to be listed on top. Maybe you could approach them for similar deals? Even if they only bid a fraction of that it's still better than nothing. And given that hosts come and go all the time it's evergreen as well.

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@Smuff No, ads are not profitable, $3/day

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@Dr.Evil Not all ads are equal. The type of ad, the quantity, the placement, the ad network, etc all play a role in how much you earn from it. Is that $3/day the current ad income? Have you done any A/B profitability testing with the variables I mentioned? I have adblock disabled here and I honestly can't seen any ads smiley.

But regardless, $3/day is still $90 a month. If you can optimize that a little and combine that with donations and other things mentioned here surely that covers the price of a dedicated server? I mean, it's hard to estimate because IDK how resource intensive the software is, how well optimized it is, or if the server is overspec'd for it. But a site with the traffic and engagement that TM has should be able to run above break-even if done right IMO.

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@Smuff smiley ABSOLUTELY YES smiley

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@Smuff New users don't come to the site because we have no working traffic sources left, Google doesn't honor such sites.

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@Dr.Evil When new user do come to this site, they can't use links till they have 100 points. I think this discourages many if not most. I never understood the motivation behind that. Just because I don't understand, doesn't mean there's a valid reason for it.

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@Bread&Circuses There was an incident a year or two ago where a new user jumped on board only to disrupt and undermine the site - consistently reporting it to authorities and causing a huge problem for the administrators. So the admins added a participation requirement to screen out those who have zero commitment to the health of the site.

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@waderex How does inability to use links prevent behavior disrupting and undermining the site? Such fools are not interested in using the links anyhow. Perhaps even a few nay be incited once they discover they can't use the links.

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@Bread&Circuses I'm not 100% sure but that is what I remember of the events. I'm not very active in the social part of this site so there are probably a lot of details that I'm missing. I just remember the admins having a problem with a few new users that were constantly drawing the attention of big media enforcers and that the rule seemed to fix it.

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@Dr.Evil Well, that's a different problem for which different solutions exist. I can give you some ideas, but I feel like everything being suggested here so far is just getting brushed aside 🤷🏼‍♂️

I will say this though. Google de-indexing has been a problem for many years. "That other site" grew from 100-200 avg online users to 1600-1800 avg online users fairly quickly, and it wasn't because they weren't getting de-indexed from search engines smiley. Besides, even for sites outside this niche Google has been garbage for a long time. Everything gets buried under keyword/SEO spam, to the point where if you want to find something actually useful you have to append Reddit to your search (hint).

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@Smuff That site is not an indicator, looks like just Netflix etc just killed such sites, why bother if you can just buy a cheap subscription and watch what you want.

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@Dr.Evil Sorry, not an indicator of what? There are many sites both inside and outside of this niche that don't, or can't, rely on Google and get their traffic in other ways. The internet today is a series of isolated islands who can't even see each other. Google and search engines in general is just one such island.

Edit: Actually people are leaving Netflix in droves because of the high price and crackdown on password sharing and everything being spread over like 10 subscription based services.

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@Smuff Search engines are still the best. Of course social networks are massive too but I think it's not the case. We tried some sources.

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@Dr.Evil They used to be. And still are if you're a well established site. But for new and smaller sites they have been terrible for a long time. Reddit, Twitter and YT are traffic goldmines if done properly. And if you still want search engine traffic you can do so through a PBN and funneling the traffic to where you want it. Or link exchange with niche-adjacent sites. There are also sites that simply list other sites in this niche.

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@Dr.Evil A Gofundme page? Didn't the vet say your pet needed an expensive operation or some such?

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@Dr.Evil This community loves and protects this place - we keep coming back SAFELY - if only a hundred people or so.

This small community can't support a yearly income for admin ('cuz this not porn-hub).

^But a hundred people can surely cover the cost of a hobby web site for a $1ea month or $10yr?

^^ If there's a problem hiding site income, then that's entirely different issue.

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@Dr.Evil You're calling $90 a month not profitable?!

Hostgator VPS with unmetered bandwidth and 120gb storage is $20 a month.

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@Lemming Well I value my time. This site requires at least 16gb memory.

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@Dr.Evil Ouch.
Sounds like the db needs a cleanup?

A lot of older links are pointing to dead sites. Maybe add a dedicated button to report a dead site and then you can remove all instances once verified.

And maybe limit the number of links per episode to 10? And are all links submitted checked for existing instances? I'm sure I've followed different links here only to find they are the same target.

Excuse my endless suggestions - just trying to help.

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@Lemming Only one good cleanup is to close the site lol really, or you think that paying $30 instead of $50 will save the site? Do you understand what the time is? I can set up a commercial site instead of this and earn money, not babysitting bad users for free here.

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@Dr.Evil This is a great site - and you said you know it. (Well done! /g)

In my experience; if one can't maintain the cleanliness of some-thing, maybe one should burn it down, or strip it, and make room for some-thing new. (Although usually the first approach is to start small, of-course. There's a reason common guidance when, for instance, cleaning a depression-room, is to focus on only picking up trash.)

I don't particularly want to see this go, but if it must.

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@Dr.Evil Well I don't know what to say.
$20 a month could be the difference between losing $20 a month and making it.

Everyone here wants to help keep the site going and have suggested ways to reduce costs so the site can cover its expenses, get increased donations and I suggested you can delegate your work so you only need spend a few hours a week checking in on it - which you could do when you watch things.

There's nothing to stop you doing that and then starting other projects with your time. Nobody expects you to babysit annoying users - delegate that to mods.

It sounds like someone has pissed you off and you've decided to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and then blow up the drain.

I hope rather than just pulling the plug though, you consider handing it over to a team of users here you trust to keep it alive. I'd be happy to help with any web development stuff for free, much as I hate that most evil of things: other people's code. ...
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@Dr.Evil LMAO. You are too right.
I think you are leaning on move on. I think that that is the best thing to do.

10 years is long enough.

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@Lemming I don't think this will solve the problem at-hand - but I have always wished to be able to report a dead link.

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@Dr.Evil Dr. Evil. go to giffgaff you will get 80gb a month for 25 quid or 30 quid for 100gb a month.

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@Smuff I think we'd run in-to the same problem later, under a new name: Adblockers.

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@LordMorningstar Most sites rely on ads for income and those sites have ppl with adblockers as well. Not everyone can or does use an adblocker. And if you're not going overboard with ads you can ask users if they would kindly disable their adblock on this site to support it.

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I'm sorry I just don't trust bitcoin. If this is costing and not floating in the black as a businessman I would drop it, financially times are going to get much worse, this tribulation just left the runway and much more distress and suffrage is here and going to rise to biblical proportions. Guaranteed. So sorry though to see you go if you must. We know your heart is good and have been such a loyal steward of this endeavor. God Bless and keep you my friend. A smiley

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@♡SKY♡ Do you know about stable coins? USDT etc?

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@Dr.Evil No I dont what is it? Would have to do research you know me. Let me know. p.s. can barely afford food lost like 13 pounds now. Oh well. smiley

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Looks like I am the only one here who has actually donated Bitcoin to the project, and I could also do so in future.

As for Bitcoin being "unsafe" that's simply bullcrap. It is actually more safe than using systems like "paypal", the only reason Bitcoin got this "unsafe" or "bad" reputation is because it is being also used to pay for illegal goods, due to transactions being anonymous.

Besides Bitcoin can be purchased very simply within few steps using CashApp, Coinbase, Blockchain, and so on. I would have no problem to help out here & proxy your donations, convert to Bitcoin, and forward to Dr.Evil, as some of you mentioned you would prefer.

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@WingTsun I can add USDT also, but I think it will not change the situation.

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@Dr.Evil It probably will not. What would make sense more would be writing an instruction for multiple ways to purchase bitcoin, as user-friendly as possible. There are platforms that are very easy to use like Coinbase or Blockchain.

Also almost anyone from US/UK have CashApp on their phones. On CashApp now you can also buy and send bitcoin with just few steps.

Plus in many countries there are actual Bitcoin ATMs, where they can just arrive, input cash, and enter bitcoin wallet where to send.

Additionally I would have no problems to take WU/Wire myself, convert it to crypto, and re-send it. There are a lot of options, just have to figure out the best way for users to go.

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i know nothing about bit-coins, but i will donate if there's an
easy way for me to send some money. i don't know much about computers
and electronic stuff. i'm just a old retired guy.

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turn off any host demanding resources that arent used by many users,
slow down the ajax refresh rate where applicable

email all users asking for bitcoin payments to prevent dos being shut down as everyone wont look at this post, if they cant provide bitcoins to ask their friends

affiliate hosting referrals

ask your hosting for a payment link to add to you hosting balance on your account but ask them for an anonymous version so you can take donations for your site

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@👨‍💻pmud👽🏴‍☠️ I think removing resources or parts of the site would be great. (If there's any-thing that could be removed.)

I like this idea.
I'm of the mind this would be the simplest solution, and there-fore probably already tried.

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@LordMorningstar @system for one would be one process thats not really needed although it is fun but this doesnt still pay for docs time even if methods to reduce were made theres still docs time that needs to be paid for

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I don't know much of such things but I don't think the problem is lack of willing contributors / donators.
I think the problem is limiting donations to bitcoin only.
Maybe that's the only option in this format. If so, sadly, I can't contribute.

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Cheaper hosting , china & russia tend to be very cheap but plenty of others although those at the bottom price point tend to have lower speeds .

If u dont fancy foreign hosting :
DreamHost $2.95 per month ($35.40 year)
at Hostinger £0.99/mth with offer bellow ($1.99 / 2.99 when u re-new direct from the site)
www.techradar.com/web-hosting/be...


But u can get 1yr for less than $10 if money is really tight using foreign hosting , might take an extra second for a page to load but its still usable .
( Can also convert images to Data URI so u dont need storage for a lot of permanent images/graphics & might help load times)

* they are happy to sell to westerners and dont really gaf as long as ur not slagging off the regime .

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@𝔗𝔥𝔢ℜ𝔦𝔷𝔩𝔞 Data URI media isn't cached by browsers and so is best avoided in all but a handful of cases. And worse than that it'd have to be stored in the database, increasing the size. Minimising the amount of images hosted on the site is the way to go there.

As for those hosting plans they are almost certainly not going to meet the requirements of a site like this. The solution there for Doc is probably running a server himself (or getting someone else to on his behalf). But that would come with some not insignificant issues - like someone deciding to point loic at it, needing to arrange an ISP that allows high traffic and hosting something like this, making sure it's kept updated with no downtime...

If you read the other posts here you can see hosting actually isn't his primary concern though.

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@𝔗𝔥𝔢ℜ𝔦𝔷𝔩𝔞 This site will not work on a shared hosting. It needs a dedicated server.

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also :

U could make an ebay & paypal ac , list an auction/buy it now for your grannies secret gravy recipe $2 (sent by email the same day) . Send ppl the link to the ebay listing who want to donate . Nothing illegal /against the rules on selling ur grannies recipe , plus u have email receipt as proof .
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congrats u bought grannies gravy recipe
buy 1 packet instant gravy
add chopped onion
heat for 2mins in microwave - eat & enjoy
ebay seller

always another way to get around and comply with any terms smiley

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@𝔗𝔥𝔢ℜ𝔦𝔷𝔩𝔞 ebay limits how much you can sell without adding tax codes same with paypal they have set threshholds what can go through the accounts before tax codes are needed

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@𝔗𝔥𝔢ℜ𝔦𝔷𝔩𝔞 I find this amusing. :P
I would lyke to buy Grannie's Special Gravy Recipee. x3

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@𝔗𝔥𝔢ℜ𝔦𝔷𝔩𝔞 or a pop up patreon on a day of month, where we have something like a 'raffle'?

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maybe people donate via purchasing amazon gift tokens and send you the redeem code or what ever your preferred site for buying products on

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I am on this site a lot and I realize I have contributed nothing so I figured now is as good a time as any, but as I look around I can not find a DONATE button anywhere. There is that kind of annoying little donate window that pops up occasionally but when I actually think about doing it myself I can not. Add DONATE to the menu at the top and add a DONATE button to all the general pages. ADD VIDEO ADD MOVIE DONATE

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@Wander There is a RED DONATE Button already in the main menu, been there for a while!

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@WingTsun Where is it? I click the DOSMOVIES homepage-nothing, Browse TV shows page-nothing, Browse Movies page-nothing, soooo like I said, Where is it? I just checked this very page, no DONATE button here either. This is what I have in the main menu at the top #100+ (4844/94) Feed Subscriptions Watchlist Favorites Playlists Friends (1) Messages Inbox (1) Settings My wall Wander Exit, no DONATE there either, not even a "RED DONATE Button". There may be a glitch in the matrix here but I did write that there is no donate on any of those pages because there is Not. If DrEvil would like me to post a screenshot of any of those pages to show him I will. There was a RED Donate button but it has "been gone for a while".

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For YOU, you see on that line Movies TV Shows Forum More Genres Help DONATE. On My screen, which is the only one I can speak to, I have Movies TV Shows Forum More and that is it, no Genres no RED DONATE button with a red line pointing it out that you were kind enough to add.

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@Wander Interesting! Dr.Evil might have applied a filter to hide it for certain users matching some criteria. You have to ask him, this is weird.

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@WingTsun Yeah seriously weird, I am really not trying to start anything, it's just not there. There is a switch Themes button at the top, maybe that makes a difference. I am in the US. maybe it's a russian hack lol I don't know.

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@WingTsun If you know how to get DrE's attention, he might want to know this.

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@Wander Just message him. As for donation page: dosmovies.com/donate

If you want to donate, you can do it via Bitcoin. Since you are from the US, you can simply use your CashApp to buy Bitcoin and send it within few steps.

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I think you should put a donate message in the space where you put the "🇺🇦 Russian warship, go f**k yourself! 🇺🇦" message.

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@DjSuperman I see the logic; putting it where every-one would see, nice and bold. /g

I would like to recommend absolutely adding this to the list of possible tasks to do.
This strykes me as a solution that is part of a greater whole of progress.

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Lots of us would donate but don't use bitcoin; we need an alternative.
Look at Patreon or Buy-me-a-coffee (or even onlyfans..) where fans can pay lump sums or regular membership charges.
I like this place and got heaps of free movies from it and want to help keep it going.

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@Buttless I rather enjoy the idea of a dosmovies onlyfans. xP I find that amusing.

I've seen a-lot of "we don't like/use bitcoin!!" on here already. (I've also seen it mentioned a few times; perhaps a user-friendly guide on How to Bitcoin would help the individual's hesitancy.)
I think because of that it makes sense that the people working behind this have been/are wracking their brains to find some sort of compromise that would help people get comfortable with bitcoin, and have searched aplenty for a bitcoin alternative. Doc's made it clear bitcoin is necessary for the site for various reasons, and that seems lyke some-thing we're going to have to accept. /nm

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@LordMorningstar I might start prostituting just to afford DOC's page on OnlyFans?! smiley

Waitaminute, so does Simon have a page? 👍🥸.
Its weird seeing friends online. 👁👁

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Please don't suggest cheap shared hosting ok? The site is more complex than you think! We require minimum 16gb of RAM, and 200+ GB disk space.

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The best idea I liked is to have someone who can accept donations say via paypal and then convert them into crypto and send to us, so we can pay the bills.

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@Dr.Evil I've seen this in action before; I've always rather enjoyed it.

I knew people in Maldives whom had to go through this process to secure their freelancing income: PayPal doesn't work in the Maldives, so they relied on a friend in America to be their middle-bank.

I'd lyke to do my part; I'm adding researching this idea to my to-do list, see if I can contribute. :3

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@Dr.Evil thats if you can trust someone to do so, which isnt foolproof as they have to be in charge of doing the tax work for it, you do get £3000 tax free per person per year so you would need a fair few people for it to not be a hassle to anyone, otherwise if one person was to do the transfers that would mean they would be viable for the tax fraud but if its several people using their £3k threshold then this would work providing you can trust so many people

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@Dr.Evil I have a friend in Nigeria who offered to share bank accounts with me, he is a prince so must be okay.
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@Dr.Evil sounds the best way to keep this place going to me to doc Evil smiley

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@Dr.Evil I think it's a good idea and that a lot of people will be willing to go with that. Say the word and tell us how to go about it. I am willing to donate. It will be to sad to see you go.

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Another thing. If someone want to participate in revenue sharing % but know how to bring the traffic back here - PM me.

I understand that the site is good, very useful, but we need new people.

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@Dr.Evil I wasn't aware this site wasn't getting new people. That's obviously an important need to keep a website afloat. I'll keep in mind to recommend this site to peeps.

If you have a chance to focus on that; I'd lyke to recommend that in advance. I'm glad you're asking here if there's some-thing that can be done for that. /g

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@Dr.Evil i can help with that will pm you obv i dont get much free time but still every little helps

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@Dr.Evil I've tried to bringing people in, but everyone wanders away from fussing with the 100pt caveat.

Why not a lump sum entry fee from new accts, with $10yrly maintenance?

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My first recommendation is always to take a step back. Any chance you get: Take a moment to breathe. Most people don't do great thinking while stressed, or warring with the feelings that come with some-thing they luv being under-threat.

I'm glad you're putting this to the community. That feels good, an honourable protocol.

I'd hate to see this go. If it must; I'll accept that.
If this site isn't profitable, isn't worth your effort; it's a natural response to shut it down.

Give it a go, absolutely!

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In the meantime, I have familiarized myself with Bitcoin and bought some.
Two fellow members have joined in and will transfer money to my bank account - so that we can send the equivalent of ~ €70/ $66 in BTC to Doc every month.

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@CitizenD Cool. If you need USDT instead of BTC just PM me.

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use the top space above like seen in image this will help everyone see the button ill send over the code in msg obv you know how to do it but seems a waste of code not to send it

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@Dr.Evil have you a steam account we could gift to?

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thought of another way of donating, so you give your wallet id and people donate via bitmining from their pc so when theyre a sleep they can leave the pc mine a few hours for you sending it to your wallet if you need help setting up pm me

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@👨‍💻pmud👽🏴‍☠️ but i guess this is more for people who dont yet already mine with their pc as they would be able to donate with BTC already if they were already mining, but every CPU GPU can be mined with even your worse laptop, the more effecient cpu + GPU the better but you can always reduce the power input using apps

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so new new idea is make a post showing how to mine and use referal codes to each thing, refereal to wallet app, referall to mine app, and then they can mine btc and you get profit on both ends from referals and from their initial btc donation that they couldnt before donate as they werent aware how to mine BTC

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method 1 to reduce server cpu: Message history is limited to 100 messages. Load time: 0.004s.
reduce the amount of messages shown, create script to load more on scroll and order by desc so its how it is now but it doesnt load all previous history of 100 messages but only loads like 3 messages and on scroll loads 3 more etc

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method 2 to reduce server cpu: reduce the max amount of tabs a user can have open at any one time and dont refresh that tab if its not active tab so that only 1 tab is refreshing per user

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@👨‍💻pmud👽🏴‍☠️ in a scenario where the user has 1 tab open but theyre not active still dont refresh as at the cost of providing push notifications for them to see when they have a notificaation i think its worth you saving your cpu and let them see when they get a new notification upon them being on that tab rather than constantly when theyre not

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Don't know if this would help or not, but don't users of the brave browser earn some kind of crypto or something that can be donated to websites and/or content creators ?

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The typical user of this site is already doing their part just by watching the video and ensuring it's quality by coming back and clicking the link that tells others if the link is good or bad.
That is really the most you can realistically expect from this group of people who log in to be able to watch and go through and endure the ad- harassment of the link host.
A possible real solution, however; might be found with the link contributor themselves because the audience is doing their part already by picking a link and downloading or streaming it but it is the link contributor that potentially makes a nice payday from that audience activity.
When link contributors post, they often post the same video link to several different sites. For example a TV show like Yellowstone season 6 episode 2 might have 18 links but 12 of them belong to just one single contributor who severally uploaded that same video onto different host sites such as uploads, streamzz, mixdrop, doodstream, and others ...which is a great thing because it allows the video to be seen even if one of the sites or even five of them got taken down over the following few months.
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is no downside even if the donator decided to back pedal or get stingy and change their mind or whatever they would still have to log in and erase your banking information out and put theirs in or close the account but anyway you slice it it's no skin off your nose. and possibly in time there could be a reward or recognition system like you do with points for those of us that write reviews for the top contributors list and so forth. I think even as far as taxes go it would just be considered a gift or a members contribution. so I really don't see any legal downside or exposure. but I do see a tremendous upside with minimal labor intensity if it's coordinated correctly

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Make a post showcasing links to either youtube or other videos that tell people how to get bitcoin. there is a bunch of stores around the world that you can buy it from now. I say if we cannot walk or drive to the store once for our Doctor we do not deserve this beautiful site.. Please send me a PM of the donation notice so I can get on it eir Doc-tor!

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There are movie sites with subscriptions based on downlod speed, look at Rarelust. Subscribers get a hi-res file in several minutes but if you want it for free a 1G file takes 12 hours. People try it free and get hooked then sign up.
Would that work for 2M?

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Well one thought would be to reduce the forums section. At the very least deletion of older forums would reduce the use and storage of data. Even the joining of some sections at the very least would reduce the amount of storage space used, thus reducing the cost of the site over-all. Perhaps, even the removal of comments/reviews over a certain age or size. Even limiting the size of comments/reviews would help reduce the amount of data storage required, I should think. Shrinking the user walls, profiles as well would help. If you're looking to reduce costs to turn a profit, one musk ask, "Do I really need this feature?" I understand that many of these features are what separate this from 'other' sites, but in the end, simplifying these features and removing old/closed forums and profiles no longer used would reduce the amount of data stored (yeah?) on your servers. I am not the most computer literate person, but only trying to offer some suggestions.

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@nonehere this doesnt save the ram this saves the database which the data isnt a problem its the loading of it, and also the main problem is lack of accessible anonymous donation methods

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@👨‍💻pmud👽🏴‍☠️ Yeah see, I'm an effing moron when it comes to stuff like this. How about mining bitcoin? I ran into this article about it. It talks about using javascript and whatnot to 'borrow' user cpu to mine the coins. Sites like The P*r*te B*y do this, and I'm led to believe there's profit in it. I really would hate to see ya'll close up shop. This is probably the best functioning site like it out here. The users aren't too bad either. 'Cept that nonehere character - he's a total tithead.

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@nonehere This is a good idea... set up a page and let users opt in.

i would look into this doc

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Nooo- Don´t throw in the towel. Please, I´d like to go with the middleman-

I can´t wrap my head around Bitcoin but I´d trust a DosMovies middleman to pay my share to.

This concept speaks to me. Also Paysafe cards and everything Paypal related.

I´m around for maybe two years, I love it here, Good People!
And most important: all the new sh*t is right up here- Loving It.

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This might be a stupid idea as I have never actually seen one or donated to one before, but what about a go-fund-me?

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Guess we'll see what happens with funds for the site.

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Weighing in.

Bitcoin is NOT about Cryptomining.

Bitcoin is legal and being considered for legal tender in the Ukraine.

Bitcoin donations are FLOODING IN to help those in the Ukraine.

Dr Evil is STILL IN THE MIDST OF WAR AND YOU ALL ARE ASKING TO TAKE HIS SITE, HIS 10 YEAR OLD BABY FOR NOTHING and YOU ARE ADVISING HIM TO DO THIS AND THAT WITH HIS BANDWIDTH. Fuck off.

Bitcoin increases with value almost every month. (Case in point: my creditors give me a 20% DISCOUNT to use bitcoin to pay my bills... I had €2 left in my account which is now 75.)

Donate €5 and if he leaves it, Dr. Evil could get €50 eventually.

The €5k restriction is absolute nonsense to consider in donations for people who haven't given anything are certainly aren't about to suddenly donate above that.

Get over yourselves.

Bitcoin is simple. It is legal in most countries and where it isn't, find a friend online and donate that way... or don't.

I provide links, etc. I'll donate what I can, but I am living off of a very limited resource. €20 a month??? Fuck off. I stopped Netflix (which is €9 a month and I don't supply links to) because it was too much.
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@Hyppytyynytyydytys Slow down! I don't think you are winning donors with this.

I understand that you are angry (I am too.), yet I have never seen an advertisement that uses such words to attract buyers.

That would rather send them running :)

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@CitizenD lol I'm not going to rephrase.

These are adults, some of which are suggesting that Dr. Evil donate this 10 year old site to them to run.

Pfffft.

Buyers? What are you talking about?

Bitcoin is very useful to pay bills with a huge discount (my own experience).

I have no interest in promoting its virtues...

This is about getting the members to realise if they don't chose Bitcoin (it is a currency in the Ukraine) they are going to lose the site.

I'm not going to coddle them.

They donate, or the site goes.

End of.

I personally have a dozen other sites I write for...

What I do here is donate links which take my UNPAID time. I don't link for profit.

And now you suggest I make it attractive to donate to a site, run by a man whose life is still at RISK and make that ATTRACTIVE to an ungrateful mass?

Nope.

Not gonna.

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@Hyppytyynytyydytys In my (painful) experience, you won't achieve anything with this style. And that's what you want, no?

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@CitizenD Neither are you.

Is that what you want?

Leave it. You do NOT understand.

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@Hyppytyynytyydytys AGAIN! Trying to win donors by yelling is a misconception.

Making a loud noise here is detrimental to the cause and is only to make you feel easier (It won't).

This is pure self-centeredness.

Over and out.

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@CitizenD Yelling?

How does someone yell on the internet?

Self-centred?

Unless I benefit, you are trying to gain popularity, not me.

I'm not interested in upvotes, it seems you are.

I'm being serious.

Gaining contributions, unless Dr. Evil says explicitly you've done so does nothing.

It's time to be serious. 10 years of generosity is enough.

Stop being a pu**y.

OVER and OUT.

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@CitizenD Let me ask you?

Do you have Ukrainian refugees living with you?

I do.

They think they people outside of the Ukraine on here are insane.

They are coining Dr. Evil a HERO for staying with this site.

They say, let it go and move to a profit. Ukraine is still at war and he needs money to survive.

#DrEvilUkraineHero

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@Hyppytyynytyydytys I'll clarify a few points since it seems my comments in particular got you all riled up.

I suggested ways to reduce hosting costs since in Dr Evil's post starting this thread he stated the cost of hosting and maintenance were too high and that the site was on the brink of costing him money.

He ended that post by asking us what we would do in his position.

I suggested rather than just delete the site if he no longer wants to host it (and wipe out all the hard work of the users who have submitted all the links and content) he could hand over the administration to someone who is happy to run it on a break-even basis, for the community, as a last resort.

The "Selfish" members of this site are the same people that submitted the links. And wrote all the reviews. And added plotlines. And voted on links, reporting bad ones. And who make forum posts helping each other. And jump to help new users in the chatbox when they ask questions (usually why there are no links).
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@Lemming Well said. smiley

This community is made up of thoughtful and respectful members, some who see this site as a second home. We don't come here to be verbally abused, back stabbed, lied about, or manipulated by others. This is why so many of us enjoy the site, and we'd like it to be maintained with positive thoughts in mind. Needless to say, I'm sure there are other Movie Sites accepting new members where misery loves company.

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The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls and tenements halls and whispered in the sounds of silence. smiley

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i wouldnt mind donating. but there has to be a better option other than just bitcoin..

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@Tinker_Pixie95 smiley Carrier pigeon, tie money to one leg and a recipe to cook it on the other. smiley

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@PureVodka🍺 They blocked me for that. smiley

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@PureVodka🍺 Probably a blessing then.

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Excuse my ignorance, but if the site does not actually supply the copyrighted content but a link, is that why only an anonymous payment form like bitcoin is required?

I would be happy to pay a membership fee to access non copyrighted things like the forum, but i would really like to use something like paypal to do it, not bitcoin.

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I didn't disappear and reading your messages, so don't worry. We have a couple of ideas and people help me.

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@Dr.Evil put this on the donate page as its a bit blank at the minute also maybe say 'x % goes to ukraine'

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I am happy to donate but can't do crypto, so I'll keep an eye out whether other options are made available.

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@emelle That's a very nice nickname / name you got. My compliments!

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@Nasos @Nasos - very kind of you. I like your profile interests and 'about'.

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Maybe some ad links, affiliate marketing, PayPerClick stuff or something

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First of all I would get rid of pop up sites, that's the main reason why some people will use ad and pop up blockers. Nobody wants to risk getting a virus on their pc or phone or hacked for that matter from some scam website. Secondly, the Brave Browser offers cryptocurrency tipping if you're a verified creator. It's easy to sign up for and use. Members and users of this site that also use the Brave Browser can set a monthly tip amount and that would help increase revenue that you can choose how you use it for the site.

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@CliffShep Oooooh good answer. This sounds very kewl 'cuz anyone can open a browser in a nano-blink. Startup an acct for [email protected] doc! smiley

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@(⌐■_■) brave.com/

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☝️ Brave also gives TWO options to hide your IP address while browsing: Private windows with Tor, and our built-in Firewall + VPN.''

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Brave currently has over 50 million monthly active users and 15 million daily active users. Brave Software was co-founded by Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript and co-founder of Mozilla (Firefox), and Brian Bondy, formerly of Khan Academy and Mozilla.''

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@(⌐■_■) I am srsly LOVING every feature in THIS BROWSER aside from money-tipping. How did I not know about this yesterday. W00T!!

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@Buttless smiley bwahahahahaaaaa, five day'z - one hundred billion! smiley

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