Links redesign (10884 views, 291 replies)
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It's f**king pointless because you're still essentially hyperlinking to pirated streams.. Just go back, if anything this is gonna cause people to not be able to figure out, or simply get annoyed with it because you added an extra step.
1.) This site isn't big enough from what I've seen that the owner would need to do this. There's lets call it a generous 1000 thousand users online at peak hours on average from my observations. Given the necessary privacy steps, nobody's going to pay for the legal process against a site that's hyperlinking content to that audience.
2.) Again, you're hyperlinking your content and not hosting. In order to keep the core of this site, the userbase, or an attempt at growing you're shooting yourself in the foot by adding another step for the site users to go through when the end result is the same. You're still hyperlinking, you're just making it rougher for the user.
3.) If you're doing it for profit, there's better ways... ...
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@Dr.Evil I call bullsh*t. I can jump on at least two other sites that I for one found on google and they're still sitting pretty with a setup like the previous one.
Countering DMCA requests isn't the way to get traffic, seems more like the way to get unwanted attention and actually get shutdown.
There's no possible way, outside of the DMCA because it's the work of search engines themselves is the site going to get great results from one.
Say one googles "Watch X movie free" it's gonna come up with about 4 or 5 pages if not even more of malware before it'll show this. (Trust me on that sh*t, I f**king did 10 years ago.) Search google for that result you're gonna get Youtube, bullsh*t news articles for traffic, or a backlink to an exploit pack before this site shows up in those results simply because it is what it is.
This is better off establishing itself as legitimate counter part to the big names (Solar, Fmovies, yaddada) people are going through word of mouth on Reddit, etc. ...
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@Nihilus🍺 I honestly mean no offense, but Doc is trying to help keep the site for all of us, so bear that in mind when giving feedback (easy does it, in other words).
You may not mean to be, but you sound really aggressive for someone so new here, or otherwise, actually.
And welcome to the site, by the way. :)
@BeachBum I already understand that.
In this case you are incorrect.
The member(it wasn't you, it was Nihilus, perhaps you neglected to notice that?) I welcomed IS new and I hadn't welcomed them.
@BeachBum I often wait as well, before registering as a member on a site that I use. Even this site here I was using for many years and only became a members after the main site I was on for almost a decade, closed down. I still use several different sites but never rush to register, especially since they don't seem to last long these days.
@Nihilus🍺 TLDR; Someone gave me a free sandwich, but I don't like the plate it's on.
@SoylentBrown Not everyone has to like it, more liberal bashing for someone having an opinion.
@Nihilus🍺 Hey. I've noticed you're pretty negative and confrontational. If you think you can run a site better no one is stopping you.
@Nihilus🍺 LOL, if you have 2 other sites with better navigations why don't you stay there instead of stirring the pot in here, can you give me a link for that sides because I have at least 7 other free streaming sides and none is better than this, I have paid for Ads- and AV software and still I have Porn ads and others inside their webpages coming up and not to forget the virus warnings
@fifi949 lol ad content is entirely based off of browsing history. If your ads are porn then your browser if being used to look at a good bit of porn.
@Nihilus🍺 Dr. Evil,there are ways you may already know??backwards titles?sdrawkacb?? these are harder to find,
hey, maybe we need "code" like in war time.--i do not think search engines can understand codes?But I am finding a idea, I will pm you.--clara
@Dr.Evil Anything to keep the site up & running. it's the best Tv/Movie site around.
@Dr.Evil hey doc you do what you have to do and you dont need to explane yourself repetitly,to anybody that questions you.i love this site and all its features and mods admins you guys made a verry nice social and good working site.there are many sites around and still i,m here everyday that means its verry humane and good so thank you dr evil for the hard work and keeping this site so nice to be on..hans..greetings from holland,lol.
@Dr.Evil yea we do understand why you do this. cuz just when we FINALLY figure out how to go thru this confusing MAZE that you require us to go thru,
you GO SWITCH IT UP TO MAKE IT EVEN HARDER> i have been faithful for almost 5 years and if i dont throw my laptop against the wall when i get done telling you how messed up all this bullsh*t is, I WILL NEVER EVER NEVER click on yer messed up site AGAIN!!!!!!!
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I find it to be a minor inconvenience. Everyone develops a preference over time for particular sources that tend to work well for them and/or have good video players. When the first link is not one of those sources it adds an extra click between you and the video. It's certainly not a deal breaker, and more than tolerable if there is some upside for the website.
@Dr.Evil In practice, that's simply not the case. Whatever metrics you're using to determine "best source" don't know and cannot know which sources stream most reliably for me. It wouldn't be pushing Openload on me if it did. Constant buffering is not my idea of a "best source".
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No inconvenience really - and if it avoids trouble. A nifty way to get around the problem hopefully.
Kudos.
master
Absolutely no problem whatsoever, why would we need to know why you change things, you know what is going on behind the scenes, I do not, We come here to watch films and have the odd chat, its easy, its fun and the best site out there, cant thank you enough 
God
At first I couldn't see the list of links and didn't like it at all because I use certain links by certain members and certain hosting sites due to download capability and ability. Some sites let you, some don't. Even if the site allows it, not all users do, so overtime I've learned which to shoot for first which is why the list of links are important to me. (Mobile phone) i wasn't expecting to have to scroll down from the player, so it was invisible to me. After locating it though, I think it's okay. It's literally only ONE click more than if the links were on the main movie page, so why the fuss? If it benefits the site, I say leave it as is. I'd rather an extra click to access the list of links than take any more risk of the site shutting down.
@◦•●◉✿♡Momof3αηgєℓѕ♡✿◉●•◦ Exactly. I was out waiting on an appointment and was on my mobile so I had the same experience as you.
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If it helps to keep the site it's s brilliant and it's no bother to work with this new configuration for me. :)
@◦•●◉✿♡Momof3αηgєℓѕ♡✿◉●•◦ But you forgot about the good side. You don't have to return to the movie page to chose another link. So basically you've got less hustle.
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senior guru
At first I thought there was something up with the site (did not see this thread), which was very upsetting. Silly me. Got three days off and some catching up on shows planned, almost went into panic mode.
And then I realised....
I don't know why but I find that certain sites will work best for me for a while, and then it will change. So I really like the idea that the first link will be the one the site has 'selected' as having the best chance to work well.
But also like that even if it takes me a while to find one that doesn't keep buffering, I don't have to keep going back to the main page to do so.
And anything that helps to keep the site safe (so that what I first thought had happened never does) is all fine by me.
For what it's worth I think TM is safer than some - I could never get on that other (now dead) site, or a few others, without using a proxy (am in the UK), but although I do use it I can actually get on TM without it.
Live long and prosper TM.
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Question Doc, on a movie I am subscribed to links on, it doesn't show "unsubscribe to links". I had to go to my subscription page to unsubscribe. Was this just an oversight or will this be how it is from now on?
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If ithis small change helps keep the F'king © trolls at bay then I'm good with that.
@EarlyRiser I wasn't sure why they made the change but anything to keep the site up & running is worth an extra click or two
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skilled
I have no problem with the changes. Do what you gotta do and I'll be supportive. Not going to criticize someone for working hard and providing me with free stuff. Lol.
Keep up the good work! 😎👍
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I generally prefer to download & watch offline rather than stream so as long as the list of links is still accessible i don't mind the change
@adamdlambert I usually just download as well mostly from openload links be it on this site or elsewhere.
@3UN01A yes, Openload i've found to be the easiest to download from and faster downloads than most other host sites.
@adamdlambert Yes, openload is and has been my "go-to" host for a while now. Hopefully they remain unlike many older faves.
@adamdlambert I haven't been able to use openload on any site for two years now and can't work out why. Get media failed to or unable to load. Is it something I can fix? -GC
@saxon901 Ask in the Chat box. I've always gotten help there whenever I had an issue.
@adamdlambert I do the same thing. I've seen other sites go that route, where they remove links & it's unfortunate. Grateful that hasn't happened here.
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I like watching my shows on this site, this new player thing adds an extra step that I'm not too fond of but I understand you're wanting to try something new.
I like being able to choose my own link before clicking on the player, instead of clicking on the player & having the first link chosen for me.
I like this site, just not this new feature, I am sorry if I seem confrontational.
God
This is definitely more complicated. I guess you have to accept it, if it helps with fighting dmca, but as a design move it is more confusing. I don't think pushing the player is the way to go, more choice is always better, and seeing links right away when you go to an episode is definitely better.
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I fear change, especially fifty-cent pieces, quarters and messing with my favorite movie site. In my best Marlon Brando. " The horror, THE HORROR !" 
Seriously, how can anyone complain of this site. The little extra work is still worth the bountiful rewards. Thank you all who contribute to this site. Keep up the great work and we'll talk of putting you on steady. 
God
I'm mostly neutral on this change. My only concern is if people start trying to game the algorithm to get one of their links to be the one used as the embed. I noticed one of my links got embedded and the # of views is really high as a result of it. Other than that, from a normal user perspective the "fake player" (the one that links to the actual links and embed) does remind me a little of the type of thing you'd find on fake sites where after you click on it they redirect/popup asking for $$$ or something. Maybe a large button or something would be better?
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5 hours since post, at least 3 in the chat alone that didn't how to find a link. Sleepy time, have fun with.
@Nihilus🍺 It's an incredibly EASY system.
After using it on both my mobile and my desktop, I find it better because I don't have to go back the the movie's/series' main page to get a link that streams well for me if one doesn't work out.
I'm happy with this change and feel confident that others will, too.
I'm sure if they ask, and read they'll understand, so not to worry.
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@Nihilus🍺 If they can read, they'll find it. Of course, there will be a learning curve just like with anything else.
newbie
I'm 70 years old and don't understand any of this. I do know I prefer to go to a show and hit a link below without any more steps. This was the best site I had found. I do thank you for everything I've ever been able to watch here. Guess I'll go play checkers with the other oldies since I can't watch anything here.
@popparock But u can still watch, choose movie, press play, scroll down to your usual link and press play I have technology phobia too.
@Bread&Circuses I usually download and watch without the buffering. Now there is no download option that I can find. Is this option now gone? I figured out how to watch last night but everything I tried to watch froze before finishing. Much thanks to you for responding to my post. God bless
@popparock Hi Pop, using the openload source, click on the " Source link: Open the source link (openload.co)" and you'll see the page that is familiar to you. with the Blue View and Download buttons. Hope that helps, if not message me again.
Good luck.
@Bread&Circuses I can't find "Source link: Open the source link (openload.co)" anywhere. I click the player to get to the links. On the links page it's not there, so I click on a openload link and get another player and still can't find it.
@popparock catch me on private message and we'll try it on click at a time, see if we have any luck that way.
newbie
This move is restricting me from finding the source links. Please put it back the way it was
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member
First, I'd like to thank everyone for their great work.
On this specific topic, I perused the above exchange and I don't think I saw the comment I'd like to make.
For the TV shows, I liked the option of being able to move to the next episode right above the list of links. I'm not seeing it on the link page but I think it has moved higher on the episode page. Would it be possible to put it on the link page? That way when I catch up on a show I missed or after being away for a while, I can jump from one episode to the next without needing to go back to the episode page.
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Now that I've used it a few times I don't mind the change. If it makes it easier for some I'm all for it.
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At first I was like "NO, don't choose Openload for me!" But then I saw the links further down the page and I'm OK with it now. Openloads are always 720P and that just too large of a file for me to play, it just won't buffer at all or it won't load for me at all. I have to search for links that are smaller, preferably 440P or less, 360 and 240 are my best playing links.
So, to sum up, I say if it works best for the site then I'm OK with it. And please Uploaders, remember that some of us are on older 13 inch laptops and can't stream those big files, so if you can, try to make sure everybody gets a chance to stream happily and easily.
By the way, I love the "toggle link" thing so we can see and avoid the larger files. 
Happy day to everyone!
@Meercat Hi, What's the "toggle link" thing ? Wondering if I missed a new feature or something.
@adamdlambert Right above the 1st link in small grey letters, it says "toggle links" and just click on that and it shows the entire link names. I hope I explained that right.
@Meercat I feel the same way when it comes to the size of files. Depending on what i am watching as well. When it comes to a Movie that I been looking forward to watching that also may have special effects or just stunning visuals, I want a copy that's larger so I can view it in detail. Sometimes that's not always the case and you can get the same quality with smaller sizes.
When it comes to tv shows, I can do with 350 mb or less and love when there's a 150 mb file which is common for true-crime shows that are usually uploaded by the same user who always keeps them small.
The choice to have either is what I look for and is best. When linkers/uploaders include both a large file and small.
Sometimes I will stream direct from link (openload is my choice) or just download from openload via browser. Sometimes the larger files DL faster as well.
I will have to check out this "toggle link" thanks for sharing ;) Happy Friday :)
@3UN01A I suppose the Pixel count has to do with the MB size of the file, and I am just learning all of this by trial and error. But, I hope to get a new computer someday soon so I don't have this issue to worry about anymore.
But Yes, a choice between a large file and a smaller file is definitely the best way to go!
@Meercat I had the same issue but when I used a faster internet connection the file size didn't make much difference anymore. Now I take my laptop to work, download what i want & go home and watch without issue.
@adamdlambert I have never downloaded files before, only stream... but that sounds like a great plan! Thanks!
@Meercat Downloading helps if you're having buffer issues as well. I use VLC to play my files once downloaded. Test it out sometime from Openload - it's so easy and quick. Hopefully you have unlimited bandwidth. ;) Then you can line up all your shows for the night to auto play one after another - no problems. Save them or delete. :)
master
Its weird, all half ass backward a setup. But hey, if it works better then, meh.. 
I could see a lot of people getting urked & confused by the new layout though. & openload buffers allot for me too.. I go Mango allot lately.. or other links... 
Mmmmm, Mangos...
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Adding the links to the embedded video page is fine, but removing them from the episode page is incredibly frustrating.
Your algorithm doesn't always choose the best source for me and the new design forces me to do an extra click to get to the list so I can do it myself.
@jasonstone Extra click is not worth it? But you don't have to return to the episode page.
@jasonstone when you click the play button it open a new tab and under it you can choose other links / video hosts that you prefer, basically the same like the old one it just now it has links selection on the bottom of the player / embed.
@∞Aces∞ Yes I understand that it takes an extra click to do the same thing as before.
@jasonstone Before:
Click to the link, link is dead, one click to close the tab, one click back to episodes pages, another link click.
After :
Click on the fake player, link is dead, click on the same page on another link below the dead video.
4 clicks versus 2. Correct?
@Dr.Evil How often do people run into dead links? I almost never do. Maybe I've just been lucky, but it seems like you're creating a problem to justify your solution.
For me it used to be one click to the link I want and that worked 99% of the time.
Now it's one click for the player and a second click for the link I want, which results in an extra click 99% of the time and saves me a click just 1% of the time.
Also why are you using this new feature to convince people that this whole model is better? There's nothing preventing you from leaving the links like they were AND putting them under the embedded player. That way it would still be one click 99% of the time and only be two clicks in the worst case scenario.
@jasonstone There are other reasons they set it up this way. If you read towards the top of the thread you can see their reasons. It makes it harder for the DMCA bots to find them. At least that's what I understand from what's been said. Isn't an extra click worth it if it helps keep the site up?
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I have no problem with the links - it's the rest of the movie page that is the problem!
One extra click is OK - agreed. But how much extra scrolling is needed to get to the comments section? And why are the comments now after the "similar" and "sponsored" sections? I liked those latter items to the right, i.e. out of the way! I know what is most important to me, I trust other users comments to help decide what to watch.
newbie
@Dr.Evil, do you mean mobile users now see similar movies? I use the similar movies section too, but the comments are much more important to me. So how about reversing positions or anything to bring the comments section higher?
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Okay no big deal really and if this was mentioned already, sorry, I got tired of reading. I used to be able to 'subscribe' to new links (or unsubscribe) whatever. I don't see that anymore. So since I already subscribed to new links, how do I stop that? Or is it just over with? I looked everywhere...don't see that option any longer...which btw I liked.
newbie
This doesn't work. Every time I click the play button, the link your site automatically chooses tells me the video has been removed. Your algorithim just doesn't work.
top expert
took me a minute to figure it out, a bit confusing at 1st to try to figure out how to bring up the link and ad make it clickable... i guess it works
master
i dont like it... or understand why its been implemented... i want people to be able to see my links... not have them chosen for them... i guess i need to go back and re-read this to figure out why this is so important...
member
Is there a way to set your preferred player? I like openload way more than streamango
master
Unless the site is in real trouble of being shutdown, (which I don;t believe to be the case), then plain and simple i'm losing users clicks by having you just pick the first one on the list for them... they are not going to go to my links if they have to go through multiple steps to do it.... it favors the superfast uploaders and pisses on us slower uploaders...
@YKJack I can still use your links..clicking on the play doesn't play, it brings up the links page.. then pick which ever stream you want. I don't think the suggested one counts on their metrics if you don't hit play on it?
@YKJack I always look for your links before selecting the one I want to use. Your links always work for me and you provide vev.io which works best for me. Thanks for all your hard work.
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this new setup is weak/ everyone has their laptop.device ssetup differently and has their preference when it co;es to strea;ing links/ olld way wasbetter/
newbie
This design makes it so you have to go an extra step to see the video quality on new movies, which is annoying
God
top expert
I really like it like this, it seems more streamlined once you get to the player, to have all the links show right there underneath. Good change and I hope this website is around forever. Thanks for your hard work!
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You know what, no matter what you do, you are always going to have those that aren't happy and complain or tell you how you could of done it better! Some people are prized f%$k wit's.
I once owned my own business! I put out a bowl of "help yourself" minties! Some loser went and made a complaint to health & safety that I was providing minties that weren't wrapped! I thought, how can someone complain, about something that not only was a kind gesture, but it was a person's choice, whether they wanted one or not.... Hence if you didn't want one, because they weren't wrapped, don't friggen have one.
In the end I sold the business because I couldn't handle people like that anymore.
Some people have nothing better to do then complain and make other's that are providing a free service feel like sh*t, when they should be honoured.
I say, do whateva you think is best and if other's don't like it, well they can f$*k off!
newbie
hi there.i cannot seem to find the openload link to download episodes of simon & simon?where can i find free links to download them?and also i wanted to download the two episodes of brett maverick titled ''faith,hope and clarity''part 1 and two.And also there is one episode from the tv show ''family'' titled ''jack of hearts''that is not available on here 
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top expert
Okay, I've read all I can. Personally for myself...of course I appreciate a free site, always will. As far as this topic we were 'asked' btw. I find the page more cluttered, not clean. Also, I know you can pick your own link once you click on the player, however...sometimes the link associated when I click on that to get to the list...freaks my anti virus out about malicious links on that particular link site. I know which ones to avoid due to my kasperky anti virus but I land on them at times anyway due to this change. That's what I do not care for. I will go with the flow on this one though and just deal with it but I really think the page looks awfully cluttered now that's it been changed. I have to say my vote is no, but I guess I can F off based on the previous comments. You asked, so I've put in my 1/4 cents worth. Try to loosen your trigger fingers folks and have a super weekend
master
I really like the new re-design, and it's really no bother to click one more time, not sure why it's such a big deal to some? I don't find it cluttered at all as someone mentioned above.
And if it benefits this site, all the better.
And one more thing: At least we are asked our opinions on this, when it could have just been implemented without anyone's feedback.
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im autistic and I am not sure where to find anylinks.
I don't like it when I have trouble finding things. sorry
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top expert
Yeah, I too have had issue with the new 'preferred' links wanting to redirect or causing pop up issues. I also have just experienced being locked out unless I solve a captcha because while having to go back to the program page to choose the next episode I made 'too many requests'. (Definitely miss the 'next episode' button.) Apparently, even after signing in, this site thinks I am a bot. I am all for trying new things and preserving the ability of enjoying free movies and television programs but this change doesn't seem to streamline anything or make it more aesthetically pleasing or user friendly, just the opposite. I appreciate this site and its admin, mods, and up-linkers do a good job, so maybe with a few more tweaks this new format will run smoother.
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@chastitylea User status depends on points, not on the length of time you've been a member.
@DemandingFemale Well that I didn't know!! Lol! Thank You!! Too bad you don't get points for downloading or watching!! Lolol!!!
@chastitylea I think we'd all have shared top-ranking if that were the case lol
You can accumulate points in various ways.
Tells you more here - dosmovies.com/users/#faq....
top expert
I personally dislike the extra steps to get to links. It looked much nicer before, anyway. I don't believe it was cluttered at all. I just want to go directly to my chosen link without first having to go to some preferred link. Just how I personally feel. Makes it harder when downloading a season of something.
newbie
I do not like the new setup for the links. Openload never plays for me and that is mainly the link that is selected for us. I like seeing the options right off.
master
I'm not having a problem with the new layout. Just happy to have links that work well and cue up quickly. If this format keeps the site alive, great by me! Thanks to all who work so hard behind the scenes here.
guru
What if you can add a user setting and let each user pick if they want to go to the player first or directly to the links page
newbie
I just got it you confused the f**k out of me....
I started to looking for outher sites that were like this ...... don't think there are any.
top expert
Surely embedding players on this site itself is inviting trouble?
If people can't work out how to click on links they shouldn't be using the internet.
top expert
I waited to use the new layout for awhile before commenting. I found it to be easy to use and switch links. If the link the player picks out doesn't work I just go to another link.
Like anything new just takes a little patience and practice to master the layout. 
top expert
After using this new system of links for less than a day, it was like 2nd nature to me. It's really no problem at all. Who counts clicks anyway? Whatever is best for the site is what I personally want.
senior guru
I take it back...
I do like change.
Maybe a forum post with some tips & screenshots might help those finding it confusing to navigate the first time.
senior guru
after clicking on player ,one linked showed up.above that player a message appears:
More links below.scroll down :)
And there is nothing below down except next source, then again next source and next source.
We could not get whole list of links at one place. 
newbie
I don't like it, personally. First, the change was made without any explanation or warning, so I was extremely confused when I clicked to the next episode of the show I was watching, and there were no links listed, and, secondly, I prefer to select my own viewer (openload or thevideo, usually) which are not always the top players, and also prefer watching on the provider's page, not in an embedded window. I already didn't like the fact that, when I clicked on a link in the old format, it would open up a new tab, which I would then have to click a link on to open up ANOTHER new tab to actually get to the video. This new set-up just complicates things further.
top expert
Before getting all worked up I took a little while to get aquainted w/the new set up. Now, I am a person who hates change (really… I LOATH it) but after a little while I realized that it didn't make much difference to the "…quality of my viewing experience". I don't find it aesthetically pleasing but then again, I'm not planning on any kind of cyber hanky-panky w/the site bot. What I think is sad is that this site is providing great viewing for F-all and their are mis-contents that can't give the set up a chance. There are those that are saying they can't see the "list of links bellow"; well, are you running something that might be masking/blocking it (?) for the longest time I couldn't post YouTube vid.s.… after a lot of trial and error I realized it was due to my add-blocker. All I'm saying is that rather than straining at the bit and foaming at the mouth, one could try to resolve the issue oneself or politely ask for help from a group of individuals that, we should not forget, are providing us all w/an inestimable source of entertainment and who should be receiving more praise than criticism…
newbie
Ok, I think I'm being a massive idiot here, but I need help with subscribing to new links (wait, it's not just a "click the subscribe button" answer).
I picked up that the subscribe button was moved to the Links page, and that kind of makes sense, but what do I do if I want to subscribe for a movie that doesn't have any links yet? Since there are no links yet, there isn't a link to the Links page; instead there's a message saying "No video sources available for this movie yet." Since there's no Links page, there's no access to the subscribe button either.
I'm sure I'm just missing something really obvious, so can someone point me in the right direction?
top expert
I'm not a fan of the new design. Finding the links page is not intuitive. If I hadn't read this post, I would never have found it.
I also don't like that there is a default video link I have to click on first. There's only 3 hosting sites I actually trust, while others don't bother to screen their ads and have popups loaded with viruses and such. Usually my anti-virus will go nuts with threat detected messages, but there's always the potential a new one is out that wasn't on the most recent definitions update, and that worries me.
Now it feels like a game of roulette, hoping that your algorithm picked the video link from one of the hosts I trust. I'm not convinced it's worth the risk to me.
newbie
i don't like the new set up. i choose specific sites to get video. the way it is now i clicked the player twice and got no video both times. i also like the fact that i know who linked the video and the type ie blue ray or dvd rip etc. please let us choose who and how we get the video from. as to a table, this was not available. to me this is leave this site for another. sorry but i really like it as it was.
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I don't mind doing something new, if it means extra security. I don't want this site to go away.
newbie
ok i found the links table. why not have the icon to access the links table on the main page. do we really need a player or can we bypast this altogether. i may not completely understand the legalities around this search engine nonsense but i did find it difficult to locate the links table and i have a phd. once i was directed to the first selection i did not look any further. my feeling is that if u want to keep ur main page simple avoid the player and just add a links icon. let us continue to select from the list as always. if u need the player for some reason u could add an icon for this and let ur algorithm do its job. but i can live with it now as before it was not acceptable. i just needed to scroll down the page but really the two items don't mix well to me. that's all i am going to say on the subject. thanks nicole
newbie
sorry but why would we only want embedded videos? to me they are useless. i like to download sometimes and i can't then. or is this the point. is it not the individual who takes the risk when downloading re viruses and copyrighted materials. most cases if it is for individual use only then copyright does not really apply. yes they will say otherwise but when it comes down to breaking the law, u must make money selling a video that does not belong to u. that is how my uncle explained it to me some years back. he is a supreme court judge here in canada. besides they have larger fish to fry over some individuals who "share" videos and keeps a copy for personal use. i think that someone is trying to justify their job and is issuing warnings they have no legal claim to. im probably off base here but i could be right. now i will not say another word on this. goodnight
@nbstokes The links aren't embedded. That's an option, if it is desired. :)
If you click the link in the main box it will open a new tab and take you directly to the link, also you have to CLICK HERE to enable the embedding (for people who want it).
master
Weird recent effect on laptop. When I fast scroll up or down I see a full black screen zip in and out of view as I scroll.
Never saw that before this new format. What's with that?
newbie
I really don't care for the change on the links page issue.. I liked it better the way it was.... 
member
I'm sometimes afraid to click large 'Play' buttons because many sites load them with pop up triggers. I'd imagine other users may also have similar concerns.
However, you can always check the stats to see if the change have impacted click-throughs.
member
for the life of me I can't find the links I tried doing what was told of me I see one player on the page it does not direct me to the links. this is the best place on the internet for movies and tv but I hate this change. can anyone explain how to find the links in an easier way? I had to go to a lesser site to watch.
member
skilled
master
I like the new setup it works and if a link is bad or slow it is easy to change to a new link!! Before the was a lot of jumping/clicking around. Sow great update .. fums up 
newbie
Trying to hide the links behind a video player that screams click me to install a virus is never a good idea, one it will cut off any new traffic from finding links and two it makes the site look shady as f**k.
@Dr.Evil I disagree 100%. I actually don't understand why you feel that way, but to each his own.
@Dr.Evil I concede my point, I forget people are mostly stupid and will click anything that looks like a video hence the reason the scammer sites actually are able to scam so many people. I'm sure most of your users don't even use ad blockers/script blockers and have PC invested with virus as well. (not saying this site is a scammer site)
top expert
Hi
It's said that a picture is worth a thousand words… So here's a picture & a few words:
The mini player only takes you to a link page rather than just one link.
When you click on the mini player it takes you to a page for the first link that looks just like the ones we got when we used to click on the link itself in the old version.
If you scroll down you will see more links you can choose from if multiple links exist.
Bellow you'll find a screen shot of a page you open when you click on the mini player…
(Perhaps another picture/icon would be more user friendly but there's no difference in what it actually does… takes you to a link just like before)
(…see? Other links are just below the box containing the first link the mini player sent you to.)
This should be what you see, if you don't, try to find out which of the mods is tech savvy or just patient and get them to walk you through it; they're all pretty nice
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@Isadora…🔔📖🕯 OK… so now there's no longer the Mini Player but an orange "Watch movie!" button (look at MotherDragons post below)
Click on that to get you to the the new link page… then you'll see the above screenshot
"…to vary one's pleasures is to multiply them" 
master
I do not understand this change. It seems to be an unnecessary change to me. Out of curiosity I clicked on Premium Access and it ends up taking me to a link to sign up for oldiesmusiccity.net
@Dr.Evil Cool, thanks for letting us know. I love this site. Thank you and all the uploaders & mods for all the hard work. Rock on!
@Dr.Evil I think those people who are getting confused will find this version better then the 'fake player'. But it seems to me it's human nature for some to dislike change. Guarantee if you stick with this for 6 months - and then tried to change it again you'd have a bunch of peeps complaining that they like this new/old version better. I don't care either way, I get to watch my stuff for free and for that I am very grateful. Thanks Dr E.
@⭐️janerosity⭐️ Totally agree with you. We changed links layout multiple times during our history.
@Dr.Evil Its a bad one. It's just going to confuse the living crap out of people even more than this has already.
Nothing about that screams advertising.
It screams sign up to this site by clicking this green premium button here so you get more access to Twomovies..
That's EXTREMELY deceiving and is only going to confuse people into signing up to the other site it redirects you to.
I thought the video was fine for single link use but once you wanted to start digging through links, that's where it became a nuisance. The old way was more intuitive towards link searching through when your watching tv series and you got to go through stuff per each episode.. I kept getting redirected to the main show page. I ended up going to a dif site, it was just easier..
senior guru
So with this new format, if you click on prmium it sends u to another site, why would u send us to another site for ad free access but its free also? Is this ur new site? is 2movies going away? Why have both for free? Little bit confused?
senior guru
Why do u want to send devoted user,s to maseke,net movie place,everything they advertise is supposed to be way better than 2movies, no ads, no throttling of speeds,its free, by all rights we should all quit 2movies & go there and u should be done! Why would u do this or offer this to us,unless u own Maseke.net and ur closing 2 movies! Why would any one in their right mind want to use the orange source button,when there is this premium site that ur i guess advertising for them that makes 2movies look like { Hate to say it,but CRAP},this makes no sense to me!!!
top expert
Well, I don't know about you, but this would kinda turn me off…
Anyway, it depends where you are… I get routed to "***********" I cause I'm in Europe. same difference, says it's free but they just need ALL your info…!
Yeah… well… I ain't moving house any time soon is all I can say.
@Dr.Evil Not saying any different lol all I'm saying is that I personally am not interested in paying 80€ when I think this site is great & it's FREE!! I was responding to Bite_Me in the post above mine. I'm all for the link change, I'm all for your site, I'm all for you!!! I think you're great!!! Thank You!!!
@Isadora…🔔📖🕯 Yes, it all appears to be free till you sign up. Then they want your SOUL!!! 
senior guru
senior master
I think this is the most user feedback on this site that I have ever seen in a forum thread.
It's always important to listen to your user's feedback and opinions regarding your site.
We were asked for our thoughts and opinions ;) here they are!
Honestly, I am happy to see so many new members have joined and can have a voice.
Thank you Dr.E for your patience and replies. :)
newbie
Could you please tell me how to get to the links page when I am logged in.It changes every day.Now there is no fake player to click on,and I can't get off the first page of anything I want to watch.Now I see a "watched" button that does nothing.How about a simple guide for registered members?
@MeCongTu Hi,normally all you need do is click on the orange " Watch Movie!" icon and it will take you to the link page like the player icon did. Take a look on MotherDragon & my posts a bit higher up. They both have screen shots that might help. Best of luck
newbie
please add next episode button to player page. It is frustrating to have to go back to the episodes list when i want to watch the next episode.
@Dr.Evil why not add one button so it is not required to navigate back to episode page in order to watch next episode.
@ On that page there is, but it would be much more convenient to have one on the next page, with the links and player. When i finish watch a video, i have to close the page I am watching on and then navigate back to this page pictured, click next episode, then click the watch movie button again to get back to the player page. there is also an additional step if i do not use the embedded player. Having a next episode button on the embedded player page would save a ton of time navigating tabs and pages. Currently the page has a button for previous and next source. it seems like it would be pretty simple to add an additional next episode button on that page so you would not have to leave it to continue watching the series.
@buzzbarkey You shouldn't have to navigate anything. When you chose the link, it opens a separate window.
(It's redundant to offer it on the tab/window with the links, as well.)
I do understand what you are saying, but perhaps you didn't realise the fist window (with the "next episode") stays open? :)
newbie
In reality the whole page seems redundant. Why have a list of episodes on one page, that takes you to a new page whose only purpose seems to be to click a button to take you to a third page with the actual video links and player? I'm uncertain why you added this additional step?
having a middle step is frustrating when you plan on watching 6 or seven episodes at a time. If the middle page is absolutely necessary, I don't see the "redundancy" of making the website more user friendly by allowing us to access the next episode without having to navigate anywhere at all. I would think that your goal would be the simplification of the process, but perhaps I am mistaken?
To be clear I don't have any confusion about how the website works, I am just confused about why the middle step is necessary, and If it does have some sort of purpose, why can we not have a button that saves us any extra navigating at all?
I switched to your website after the untimely death of one of the early websites because you guys more reliably update your links, and for that I am greatly appreciative, but with this newest update this website has become perhaps the least user friendly of the movie websites. No other website requires users to navigate to three different pages just to open a link or requires you to navigate two pages to watch the following episode.
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@buzzbarkey I actually like the new set up and feel a bit confused as to how there can be so many extra steps, like you have described? I don't do any of that.
To reiterate, there aren't all those steps when I use the site (in fact I illustrated how what you are doing is redundant, and you may actually be closing a window that you shouldn't), so I feel that there's something extra being done on your end that needn't be.
In any case, best of luck. Maybe someone else can explain it better than I am as I am clearly not able to convey it to you.
:)
@ I'm sorry if I was unclear. I do not close the window. You only have to do three steps the first time when you find your show, then choose the episode which opens a new window. you then have to click watch movie which opens another window. yes you can just close the window with the player and be back at the window that says next episode, but after waiting for next episode page to open you then have to click watch movie again after which you are taken to a new window with your next episode. this is what i mean by there being many steps. It seems like it would be so much simpler and easier to be able to only have to click watch movie once and then not have to leave the player window in order to watch the next episode, instead simply having a button to take you directly to the next episode embedded player page. This way there would be much less navigating to do. this way in order to watch the next episode of a series all you would need to do is click one button and be automatically taken to the next episodes embedded player page, where your algorithm can continue to automatically select the best video link to open in the player. ...
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@buzzbarkey The steps are a measure to thwart bots and help to save the site.
I understand what you're saying.
I feel saving the site through the steps that bots cannot make (yet) is worthwhile.
Happy streaming. :)
@ see now the steps make perfect sense to me. I am curious though, as the bots still should be blocked by the "steps" wouldn't my next episode button be okay on that final page?
I know a lot of people keep current on shows but there must also be a great deal who are behind or like to binge watch who would find a next episode button to be very convenient on the imbed page.
If you are worried about cleanliness, it could easily be placed below the source links at the bottom of the page. I doubt most people even scroll down that far, if at all. But it would be so nice to at least have the option.
Also I appreciate the civility of this conversation and you taking the time to respond. there are far to many trolls out there and a-hole mods, that make commenting on things to much of a pain to even bother. Some mods wouldn't even ask the community for feedback. Thanks
@buzzbarkey You're welcome.
I'm just a member, like yourself.
I believe that Doc (Dr. Evil) is the one to approach with your suggestions.
I, too, appreciate you conversing and remaining neutral. Too often, and too easily, this expressionless conversing/writing can be misjudged in haste.
:)
newbie
so to be clear, despite our whole conversation making it sound like it, I have no problem with the watch movie page. and i like that the links and player are on the same page. If the watch movie page protect the site I think its a great idea. I think this change is an excellent idea, and always have.
What I don't like, and this only effects us if I'm watching more than one episode of the same show, which i assume many people do, is not being able to access the next episode from the embedded player page.
Adding a next episode button would not diminish the improvements you have made, or make the site any less safe from DCMA. It would only make navigating while catching up on a show or binge watching a bit more convenient, once we have already reached the final page.
The "extra step" I was originally referring to before things got a bit complicated in our discussion, was not the added security of the click here page, but the inconvenience of not having the next episode button on the embedded player page. which then required us to close the page we are on to reach the next episode.
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We've moved links away from movie/episode pages. We want to keep movie pages clean. Tell your thoughts. So movie pages and episode pages now for general movie information without any pirated stuff. And your comments and reviews. Links table can be found on any link page under the player. So nothing really changed, just a small move.
1. We had that player for years, only for anonymous users. 2/3 of them just don't understand links section, they need a player.
2. We choose the best working link based on our algorithm.
3. We can place them back anytime. Just testing now.
Some users say that there's one more click. I disagree on this!
You don't have to return to the movie page to chose another link. So basically you've got less hustle.
So movie/show/episode pages - for general information and comments/reviews.
Links pages - for links. It can work better for us!
@Dr.Evil Is there a way to choose the link we want other than having to his next link until we find it? There are times when only certain links work for me due to others being online in the home.
@MotherDragon Links table is available. Do you see it?
@Dr.Evil I found it! Thanks for all the great work!
@Dr.Evil NO I do not
@Dr.Evil ok i figured it out, but i don't see where i can {{{discontinue notifications in my inbox}} to new links..quality of the link.
@Dr.Evil Anything that helps this site and improves it for users is always a good thing. I don't see why anyone would complain about an extra "click" when this is all provided free for members. All your efforts and hard work that you put into this site are always much appreciated. Especially the newer TV Show Schedule feature but also every single feature you have either added or updated since I joined, are all amazing and I have ZERO complaints. 💜💜 Thank you Dr.E ;)
@3UN01A I fully agree with this comment and add my own thoughts to it. Thank you @Dr.Evil
@Dr.Evil tested, no likee :p
@Dr.Evil It shows no links now. It said moved links to links page and there is none. It also says just click on the player and there is no player (there are many links for this episode)
@Dr.Evil Just a suggestion...actually put a link to the links page sans automatic player. I really just want a list of links. Oh, and a link to the next episode of the series on the page of links?
@Dr.Evil All the “best working links” seem to be for clipwatching site, which to be honest I have never used and have only recently noticed appearing at the top of each link list in the last week. Problem is, all of these links show ads, some inappropriate before showing the actual show you are trying to watch. About 50% of the time, they don’t progress beyond the ad. So whilst I have no problem with the new layout of the site, I would query the best working link! For me streamango is always 100% reliable. Can we not just have the links rather than a default player with the best working link, because that isn’t the best working link for everyone.
@Andreabunnie Ditto. What is the real reason for the reformat? Is the site data mining, btw? I notice intermittently that my CPU spikes and holds frequently for no apparent reason and no background app that I'm running is responsible.
Also, that having to click "I understand now let me watch" every time you log on should not be necessary for long time users, who know the way around. Why not just have that as included in the log in function? Save time and annoyance and yet another click.
@ThomasinaPaine I was crypto mined at another site, as you know.
I certainly do not want that again!!
It's all clear.
Must be something else.
@ It dawned on me later I had written 'data mining' instead of crypto...lol & duh... The symptoms were the same as last time, sudden, unceasing spiking CPU activity which only stopped if I cut my internet connection, which was why I asked. I was watching a vid on here, only 1 link open, and CPU was suddenly and for no reason jacked to 100% and stayed there, so I had to eject from internet to stop it.
I always assumed at the other place that was what was going on in the background, and was surprised when the same thing happened on here.
Is that not a symptom of crypto mining? CPU out of control like that with NO other apps or services engaged by the user?
If not, mea culpa :)
I was just curious..not necessarily awfully concerned, just a bit annoyed it was happening again.
Thanks for clarifying that comment for me... ~gotta start going to bed earlier..heh
@ThomasinaPaine It can be one of many symptoms, but isn't a definitive in and of itself, by itself.
Generally, you should be able to see the spike being directed toward the source.
It could be the link (host) you used?
It's difficult to say. If it happens again shoot me a screen print of your task manager and the the link, if that's convenient?
:)
@ Will do..and thanks, Rav! Hope all is going well for you, btw !Tried to post a hello to ya but it was one of those night on here I kept getting bounced out.
@Dr.Evil Different links work on different browsers and computers. THIS setup is nonsense. You will always have people who get confused, and though I appreciate your attempt to clarify things for them ... this will NOT help. If anything; you've made it all the more confusing. Better to have a comprehensive set of instructions and a better labeling on the links. I've been using the site for years and this is the worst thing you've come up with thusfar.
@Onmiyogi On other sites they show you the default player and it's OK, or even no choice at all. I know what can help us.
Thanks for your post anyway. :)
@Dr.Evil Hello!
Well... I don't like it. (Sorry!)
It was easier before, and better.
It was faster to look at the list and choose the link.
Now it is more annoying to go link by link.
At least, it is for me.
I love the page!
Sorry for the negative comment.
@Najash Ok, I found the list.
But I think it's more confusing this way.
I still think it was better before.
@Dr.Evil so how the hell can i watch ANYTHING without homer stepping in and screwing everything up that ISNT ALREADY
@Dr.Evil Having the player there instead of links makes me think the site is trying to trick me into clicking an advertisement (which often appear as video players). I also dislike the choice between losing the information on the episode page or keeping two tabs open instead of one.
@Dr.Evil Thanks to everyone who works so hard to keep us up to date on here, the newest update makes it so much easier to navigate Thanks again
@Dr.Evil @ Dr evil .I would like to say great job new format is easy.I have only recently became a member but have been using the site anon for about a year and love this site its the best out there IMO keep up the good work :)
@Dr.Evil Where is download link
@Dr.Evil I'm sorry but I like the old variation much better. I prefer to go directly to the link that I want to use without pressing the player. In my case openload.co works perfectly without any warning of my virus scan program. With this new improvement (?) not all links are safe. Still, I love this website and hope it will remain user friendly for all users. Thank you.
@Dr.Evil I ONLY WATCH. I HAVE NEVER EVER DOWNLOADED ANYTHING.I NEVER WILL. SO NOW HOW DO I GO ON A MARATHON OF REIGN LIKE I WANT TO DO NOW BUT I CANT
@Dr.Evil As one of the perpetually confused I figured it all out pretty quickly, no complaints at all. Just a query about how to find the"watched" button after I've watched a video. Regard-GC
@saxon901 It is under the storyline area on each episode. Between next & previous choices.
@MotherDragon Thanking for replying. Yes, I found that button but what episode is it referring to? When I click it it says "unwatched" which I find a bit disconcerting when I haven't viewed anything yet. What am I missing here?
@saxon901 It stumped me at first too. When you click 'watched' it marks the episode you are watching, or have just finished as watched. It changes to 'unwatched' in case you want to change it back to that way.
@MotherDragon Thanks again -GC
(Looks like the phantom down voter is at it again I see.) 
@Dr.Evil how do i go to the link pages?
@Dr.Evil There is most definitely an extra click and it's before you even get to see the links available which makes it even more irritating. To our view, it looks more confusing than it did before and adds an unnecessary step. I thought it was great that it was so simple you could click on the movie/show and there were all the links to choose from. I never use the link your algorithm is choosing because they never work for me unless they are openload. Even then it's usually a broken link and I have to go to another openload link to view. The addition of the watch button is helpful, but there could still be better efficiency with the watch and follow episodes options. I'd like to be able to do all of those from the list view without having to click on the show/movie.
@Dr.Evil Working well for me. Thanks for your hard work, Doc!
@Dr.Evil Horrible setup for any new users that come to this site, they won't be able to find any links and will move on to easier sites. (these sites are a dime a dozen at this point) Do what you got to do but you will kill your growth as a site in the long run doing it this way.
@eggsterminate You don't understand users actually. This player has been there for years.
@eggsterminate Actually, a friend of mine was over after the set up changed (never been on the site before) I asked him to get a link to watch a film that we all had agreed to watch, and he commented to me how easy it was compared to other sites.
I guess he would disagree with you?
@Dr.Evil Unfortunate... this is horrible. We can't pick a host we want anymore? Awful. I get why your doing it, but it kinda sucks.
@BeachBum Yes you can.
Click the "Watch Movie" on the first page and it take you over to a full page of links.
@ I did, and all it did was send me the link to watch.
@BeachBum I think it is because there was only 1 openload link, so I had no option. I will check another movie. And ty for your tip earlier.
@BeachBum That sounds like it.
Hope everything works out. :)
@BeachBum Open your eyes.
@Dr.Evil I see it now, it's below the movie. I still say It is unfortunate. People don't like change. And I am one of them. Not a fan...still. You asked for opinions, not everyone will like it. And I don't
@Dr.Evil maybe it's doing it because there is only one link. But it auto opened the movie for me. And that is part of what I don't like.
@BeachBum I also don't like to close the site.
@Dr.Evil If that is the reason, then by all means, but I am also not understanding why this is the case. So then it is for protection like Nihilus stated.
@BeachBum Actually, Nihilus stated a method for profits, so it's not entirely what he was on about.
@Dr.Evil So what,is happening today then? No player with a preferred link, but now some kind of choice to premium access to some co named Maserke,with no ads and blah, blah. What is 2movies becoming this company or why are u offering something from another place? I'm confused?
@Dr.Evil I think it’s better. I used to have to back up and open the next link I wanted to choose before, and now I can just stay on the links page and no backing up is necessary. I do have to erase part of the movie links though. I can only use the actual movie link URL and I delete the
dosmovies.com/user/go_away/?go=....
stuff that precedes it. It just redirects me to the main twomovies page with the search bar if I don’t. But I don’t mind. The less junk in a link, the better it works. Thank you!